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    Greece and Turkey about to square off?

    Turkey's ruling party, and even much of the opposition, seem intent on, if not obsessed with, invading and conquering these Greek islands, on the grounds that they are actually Turkish territory.

    "The things we have done so far [pale in comparison to the] even greater attempts and attacks [we are planning for] the coming days, inshallah [Allah willing]." – Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, February 12, 2018.

    The head of the state-funded Directorate of Religious Affairs, the Diyanet, has openly described Turkey's recent military invasion of Afrin as "jihad." This designation makes sense when one considers that Muslim Turks owe their demographic majority in Asia Minor to centuries of Turkish persecution and discrimination against the Christian, Yazidi and Jewish inhabitants of the area.
    In an incident that took place less than two weeks after the Greek Defense Ministry announced that Turkey had violated Greek airspace 138 times in a single day, a Turkish coast guard patrol boat on February 13 rammed a Greek coast guard vessel off the shore of Imia, one of many Greek islands over which Turkey claims sovereignty.

    Most of the areas within modern Greece's current borders were under the occupation of the Ottoman Empire from the mid-15th century until the Greek War of Independence in 1821 and the establishment of the modern Greek state in 1832. The islands, however, like the rest of Greece, are legally and historically Greek, as their names indicate.
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...reece-invasion





    Tsipras issues rare WAR WARNING as tensions mount
    Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras said today Greece would not tolerate any move from Turkey after Turkish and Greek coastguard vessels collided close to disputed islets in the Aegean Sea.

    He said: "Our message, now, tomorrow and always, is clear... Greece will not allow, accept or tolerate any challenge to its territorial integrity and its sovereign rights."

    "Greece is not a country which plays games," Tsipras told an audience at the country's shipping ministry.

    The collision involving the two vessels occurred on Monday evening off Imia, known as Kardak in Turkish. Each side blamed the other for the incident.

    Turkey and Greece, NATO allies, have been at odds over a host of issues from ethnically split Cyprus to sovereignty over airspace and overflights.

    They came to the brink of war in 1996 in a sovereignty dispute over the islets, but tensions have eased since.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...pras-territory





    My hope is Greece makes wrecks of every Turk plane and ship.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    read the title of this post and clicked thinking it was going to be about a backyard frier accident. I don't know why.
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    Why would Turkey want a country that is so far in debt, they'd probably bankrupt Turkey, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    Why would Turkey want a country that is so far in debt, they'd probably bankrupt Turkey, too?
    Erdogan dreams of a revitalised ottoman empire, with him in charge. Tis the reason he funds/arms isis, as isis is also all about a revitalised moslom ottoman empire. Erdogan fancies himself the caliph. Even his "opposition" inside Turkey calls for invading Greece so this ottoman theme is very popular with Turks. Back in ottoman days, the Turks controlled Syria, Iraq, Astan, Egypt, etc etc. Ww1 broke them all apart into their local ethnicity and curtailed Turk hegemony. Having a large nato armed military has gone to his head, so he be flexin on Greece, yo
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Lest we forget Kim Jong and China;



    North Korea Warns Washington "Running Amok" Heralds "Dark Cloud Of War"
    In a suspiciously soft response - particularly after its ally China accused the US of "long-arm jurisdiction - North Korea criticized Washington's decision to impose sanctions on marine vessels supplying North Korea with banned goods that could help support its nuclear program, but said it would still be open to talks with its longtime geopolitical archnemesis.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...oud-war-region

    China Slams New "Unilateral" U.S. Sanctions On North Korea
    China issued a stern rebuke of enhanced US sanctions on North Korea on Friday, saying the unilateral targeting of Chinese firms and individuals accused of supplying Pyongyang with prohibited cargo risks harming international cooperation on the problem.
    "The Chinese side firmly opposes the US imposing unilateral sanctions and 'long-arm jurisdiction' on Chinese entities or individuals in accordance with its domestic laws," said the Chinese Foreign Ministry in a statement. "We have lodged stern representations with the US side over this, urging it to immediately stop such wrongdoings so as not to undermine bilateral cooperation on the relevant area."
    The fresh sanctions were slapped on 27 companies and 28 ships linked to the North Korean shipping trade, while the U.S. urged the United Nations to blacklist entities known or believed to be smuggling prohibited cargo in or out of North Korea. Energy and shipping firms based in mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore are primarily affected by the sanctions, which block US-held assets belonging to violators, and prohibit US citizens from conducting business with them.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ns-north-korea

    Back to the fundamental question, why do the Chinese want guns taken away from the hands of American citizens? Simple, when the blue helmeted occupation is rolled out, the Chinese do not want to have to deal with 300 million handguns.
    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/wh...arm-americans/



    Also, Russia recently sent their latest su57 "F22 killer" fighter jets to Syria. This could get interesting, we do have F22s operating in Syria.



    Satellite images show two Su-57 at airbase in Latakia; Russian official says presence of planes a 'message' to neighboring states who fly aircraft into Syria 'uninvited'
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia...med-at-israel/

    DEBKA Weekly’s military sources see President Vladimir Putin’s decision to send the Su-57 fighters to Syria as substantially raising the big power stakes in Syria after the loss of dozens of Russian troops on Feb. 7 to massive US artillery and air strikes that decimated the Russian, Syrian and pro-Iranian forces crossing the Euphrates River. An American radar-invisible F-22 took part in that raid. The Russians have dubbed the Su-57 the “F-22 killer.”
    https://www.debka.com/russias-toplin...eli-air-might/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    The state-run China Daily argued the U.S. is pursuing war, asserting that the Taiwan Travel Act will embolden Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen, who Beijing believes has pro-independence leanings, to pursue diplomatic recognition as a state. Were Tsai to do so, it would trigger China’s Anti-Secession Law, permitting China to use force to preserve its territorial integrity.

    “Since the US is bound by domestic law to act on behalf of the island in that instance, it would only give substance to the observation that the descent into hell is easy,” Chinese state media asserted.

    Beijing also expressed serious concerns over an aspect of the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, which Trump has already signed into law. The legislation proposed permitting the Navy to make port calls in Taiwan. China also threatened war over that decision, stating that China will open fire on Taiwan if an American naval vessel ever visits.

    Taiwan, however, has responded positively to America’s decisions.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/02/china-anger-taiwan/

    uh oh
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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