This Doesn't Help

[recon]

Another young person who is 18 just gave the anti gun people more reason to raise the age to 21yrs to purchase rifles. Stupid!
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/r...n-pasco-county

[l921428x]

I know you have heard this 10 dozen times but I remember seeing rifles
on gun racks in trucks at school and if you did not want to leave your rifle in the truck
you could leave it in the principles office.

But times change and you should know the rules..

[LAGC]

That's what I was going to say. When my dad's generation was growing up, boys went plinking/hunting right after school, so it made sense to have a gun rack in your vehicle and take your gun and ammo with you to school.

Besides, I don't think it's really those kids we need to be worrying about. If they're displaying their rifle "loud and proud" on campus, they probably aren't trying anything sneaky/malicious.

OTOH, cars are pretty easy to break into. Even if nothing hostile were to happen, it could still make a juicy target for criminal theft and resale... so maybe better to leave it at home.

Definitely a different age we live in these days...

[Richard Simmons]

Found several versions to this story but we all know initial reports can change over time. One said the person happened to notice empty shell casings in the bed of the truck so decided they needed to look inside the cab and saw the gun case. Another report said the person looked in the cab and saw the gun case in the seat with the empty cases next to it/ on the floor.

Haven't found a pic of the vehicle but if I may fall back on a certain stereotype, an 18 year old male in FL who owns an AR probably isn't driving a Chevy Luv. I'm betting its at least a 1/2 if not 3/4 ton 4x4 and it's probably got aftermarket wheels tires and a lift kit.

My 2012 F150 4x4 is factory stock and at 6'3" I've got to make a deliberate effort to look in and see the entire bed. Not saying the young man didn't pull a stupid move but I am saying I believe the casual observation they are claiming ac PC is suspect.

Suspect enough that it almost, I repeat almost makes me wonder if it was staged. The article stated the young man posted a photo of the firearm on snapchat yesterday evening. If correct we are to believe a little more than a week after this most recent shooting this guy posts a pic of his AR then loads it in his truck in a case in plain view and takes it onto school which is a criminal offense and a passerby "notices" these clues by chance.

Kinda makes one wonder.

[rktman]

It seems our young men are not growing up the same as we did in the "gun-rack" days.
Aggression is being suppressed in them and they are not allowed to express it until it blows up to full scale murder.
This is a societal change problem, not a change in the guns.
I hate it but it looks like the current 21 is the previous 18 maturity level.
We need to get back to making them work hard, allowing them to make stupid mistakes, and to learn from their actions.

[ltorlo64]

So this kid has been arrested and charged with a 3rd degree felony, and there is not evidence that he was planning to do anything illegal (except have the gun in a "gun free zone"). I hope others see the inherent problems in this scenario to liberty and freedom.

[l921428x]

It seems our young men are not growing up the same as we did in the "gun-rack" days.
Aggression is being suppressed in them and they are not allowed to express it until it blows up to full scale murder.
This is a societal change problem, not a change in the guns.
I hate it but it looks like the current 21 is the previous 18 maturity level.
We need to get back to making them work hard, allowing them to make stupid mistakes, and to learn from their actions.

If that is true why should 16 year olds be allowed to vote?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/19/opini...las/index.html

[rktman]

If that is true why should 16 year olds be allowed to vote?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/19/opini...las/index.html

Ha, no way!

[Schuetzenman]

So this kid has been arrested and charged with a 3rd degree felony, and there is not evidence that he was planning to do anything illegal (except have the gun in a "gun free zone"). I hope others see the inherent problems in this scenario to liberty and freedom.

Yep it bothers me a lot. Now they are ruining this kids life over nothing really. I too saw plenty of guns in gun racks in Pickups back in the 70's when I was in school. Nobody shot anybody. Then again we all started out with prayer in the schools and virtually all of us had 2 parents that took us to Church every Sunday. The decay of our society is directly linked in my opinion to what we are seeing happen now with young people. Broken homes, lack of God, no morals and morality taught, no ethical standards taught and every young person with their head focused on a Smart Phone.

[Krupski]

an 18 year old male in FL who owns an AR probably isn't driving a Chevy Luv. I'm betting its at least a 1/2 if not 3/4 ton 4x4 and it's probably got aftermarket wheels tires and a lift kit.

Yup... the mark of a criminal.

Suspect enough that it almost, I repeat almost makes me wonder if it was staged.

Staged? I thought you were the one who believed all the BS that the government spews? No way would our wonderful government STAGE a crisis.......

[Krupski]

So this kid has been arrested and charged with a 3rd degree felony, and there is not evidence that he was planning to do anything illegal (except have the gun in a "gun free zone"). I hope others see the inherent problems in this scenario to liberty and freedom.

These school shootings are a result of "zero tolerance" policies, and "gun free victim zones" are the sick, sad and insane attempt to bandage an infected wound.

[alismith]

Yep it bothers me a lot. Now they are ruining this kids life over nothing really. I too saw plenty of guns in gun racks in Pickups back in the 70's when I was in school. Nobody shot anybody. Then again we all started out with prayer in the schools and virtually all of us had 2 parents that took us to Church every Sunday. The decay of our society is directly linked in my opinion to what we are seeing happen now with young people. Broken homes, lack of God, no morals and morality taught, no ethical standards taught and every young person with their head focused on a Smart Phone.

Hell, I almost always had a shotgun, or .22 rifle, in my car in the HS parking lot whether it was hunting season, or not. Sometimes, a few buddies and I would go shooting/plinking right after school. Nothing out of the ordinary for any of us.

[JTHunter]

Do you think that these over-zealous idiots are going to ruin this kid's life with a 3rd degree felony for doing a dumb thing, esp. when there was no intent to do anything?
I hope and pray that they drop it to a misdemeanor and fine (or less) and don't screw this kid into a bitter, unemployable adult.

[Richard Simmons]

Yup... the mark of a criminal.



Staged? I thought you were the one who believed all the BS that the government spews? No way would our wonderful government STAGE a crisis.......

My stereotype comment was with regard to the pickup truck in that an 18 year old guy that's into shooting and lives in FL probably has a large 4x4 which makes the casual observation of shell casings in the bed less plausible.

For some reason you equate not drooling over every conspiracy theory believing "all the BS the government spews". Not the same. I also didn't say it was the government that might have staged it. That must be your paranoia showing. It could have been staged by the young man in some misguided, 15 minutes of fame attempt. Could be a political group, law enforcement, local, state or federal government. It may even just be what was reported, an innocent discovery of a poor choice.