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    Post An Assault Weapons Ban Does Indeed Violate The Second Amendment

    After today, it's all historical.

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    Shall not be infringed says all I need to know.
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    So at what point do the governing people get called out and prosecuted for violating the supreme law of the land?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    So at what point do the governing people get called out and prosecuted for violating the supreme law of the land?
    Good question!

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    They do not. They are a so called "protected class." Burn the transportation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunreference1 View Post


    First and foremost, the term “Assault-Weapon” is a made up term by the gun control lobby to strike fear into the hearts and minds of Americans. Gun control activists rely very heavily on fear-based language to persuade Americans that guns are inherently evil, and that the only solution is to pass stricter gun control laws.

    Assault is an action; it’s a verb, not a noun. Firearms have no soul, they’re not living objects, and they are not inherently evil. You could put a loaded firearm on a table, leave it there, and unless somebody picked it up, aimed it, and pulled the trigger; the firearm would remain harmless. That settles the debate of “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.”
    How many YEARS have I been saying this? Only to be argued with by GUN OWNERS who should know better... bullshit like "Hitler coined the term" or "assault rifle refers to a military weapon" ad-nauseaum.

    They try to warp the German "Sturmgewehr" (which means STORM rifle) into "assault rifle"... yeah just like "Sturmabteilung" means "Storm Detachment" (A.K.A. the SA or "brownshirts").
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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    So at what point do the governing people get called out and prosecuted for violating the supreme law of the land?


    We all know the answer to that. The ballot box has failed. The jury box has failed. You know what remains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    How many YEARS have I been saying this? Only to be argued with by GUN OWNERS who should know better... bullshit like "Hitler coined the term" or "assault rifle refers to a military weapon" ad-nauseaum.

    They try to warp the German "Sturmgewehr" (which means STORM rifle) into "assault rifle"... yeah just like "Sturmabteilung" means "Storm Detachment" (A.K.A. the SA or "brownshirts").
    Storm Troopers much.....or Stumtruppen if you prefer.

    Hitler may or may not have coined the term, but he sure as shit embraced it.

    In other words, I view anyone who uses the term "assault whatever" as a closet nazi. Someone who embraces socialism of any kind.

    It's all about putting fear/terror into the masses of sheep/zombies....propaganda at it's best
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    It is all about words and terms. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan1983 View Post
    (1) Storm Troopers much.....or Stumtruppen if you prefer.

    (2) Hitler may or may not have coined the term, but he sure as shit embraced it.

    (3) In other words, I view anyone who uses the term "assault whatever" as a closet nazi. Someone who embraces socialism of any kind.

    (4) It's all about putting fear/terror into the masses of sheep/zombies....propaganda at it's best
    (1) German troops (not just the SA Brownshirts) were referred to as an "abteilung" which means (in this context) a "division" or a "unit".

    "Troopers" would be "Soldaten" (plural) or "Soldat" (singular). The literal translation for "Storm Troopers" then is "Sturmsoldaten" or less often "Sturmtruppen", but that's what WE called them.

    For that matter, the WW-II Germans were members of the N.S.D.A.P. which is "National Socialist German Workers Party" (where "German" is "Deutsch" and "workers" is "Arbeitskrafte" - hence the "D" and "A").

    It was the allies that coined terms such as "stormtroopers" and "nazi", the latter being an easy to pronounce version of "NSDAP". The German's themselves never used the term "nazi".

    (2) Oh? Proof? Link? Anything?

    (3) You need to distinguish between what's real and what's made up. Hitler NEVER "coined the phrase" "assault weapon". It's simply not true. "Assault" is a verb, not an adjective. Using it in conjunction with "rifle" or "weapon" is incorrect English and plainly absurd.

    But, using the phrase doesn't make one a "nazi", but rather just a left wing, socialist, card-carrying communist.

    The phrase was made up for the "Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989" and that's also where the ridiculous "definitions" first came from (such as the "Protruding pistol grip" or "Threaded muzzle", ad-nauseaum).

    (4) 100% true.
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    The word "assault" became an adjective when new-speak became popular among the news media. Just like the rifle never named "AK-47", the news made up the term, it sounds so scary, and unfortunately it stuck.

    As to the AK, the Soviets never used a number after the rifle called the Avtomat Kalashnikova until the -74. While it was introduced in 1947, the Soviets requested some design changes. It was reintroduced, approved and entered service in 1949. Our new media gave it the designation AK-47 which caught on enough that in his later years Mr. K was quoted as calling it an AK-47. The only AK variant that had the -47 designation was on the Chinese commercial rifle made for the US market because that is what they heard we called it. When that didn't sell they reverted to their own "56" designation. Unfortunately Bush1 stepped in so we will never know what the market would eventually call it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    (1) The word "assault" became an adjective when new-speak became popular among the news media. Just like the rifle never named "AK-47", the news made up the term, it sounds so scary, and unfortunately it stuck.

    (2) As to the AK, the Soviets never used a number after the rifle called the Avtomat Kalashnikova until the -74. While it was introduced in 1947, the Soviets requested some design changes. It was reintroduced, approved and entered service in 1949. Our new media gave it the designation AK-47 which caught on enough that in his later years Mr. K was quoted as calling it an AK-47. The only AK variant that had the -47 designation was on the Chinese commercial rifle made for the US market because that is what they heard we called it. When that didn't sell they reverted to their own "56" designation. Unfortunately Bush1 stepped in so we will never know what the market would eventually call it.
    (1) The verb "assault" came to be used as an adjective when the phrase "assault weapon" was coined for the 1989 Roberti-Roos "Weapon control act". Of course, the media and gun grabbers picked up on it, but us gun owners should not be validating their misuse of a word by AGREEING with them.

    I've heard way too many gun owners (and not just Fudds) spew page after page of text, trying to "explain" what an "assault weapon" is, claiming that it's a military weapon, a full auto weapon, etc.....

    Sure, the idiot gun grabbers love the term, but WE should not be validating them!

    (2) I thought the "56" (or "Type 56") referred to the SKS? And, anyway, if the designation "AK-47" is wrong, what does that matter? The designation does not make the rifle "scary". AK-47... AK-49... so what?

    And, what about "AKM"? Is that real or made up?
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    Calm down Roger, just trying to show how the news media makes up things to suit their own agenda.

    And with the Chinese, number "56" was used for both an SKS and an AKM.

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    The type 56 rifle is the AK. The type 56 carbine is the sks. I think you can date them this way as well by adding the first two digits of the serial number to 1956.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    Calm down Roger, just trying to show how the news media makes up things to suit their own agenda.

    And with the Chinese, number "56" was used for both an SKS and an AKM.

    I'm calm....


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