Another School Shooting in Santa Fe, Texas

[alismith]

Damn, another one happened.

I guess setting up "School Gun-Free Victim Zones" is working well everywhere.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/live-upda...150311016.html

[l921428x]

Death penalty. I do not care about the age or mental health status. The person is caught mass
murderer. A shotgun is brutal. They are saying they are finding explosives on and off the campus.

God be with them.

[T2K]

Suburb of Houston. Shooter was 17, too young to legally own a gun. Wore a black trenchcoat with a Commie star and a German iron cross on it. Weapon was apparently a shotgun.

Societal problem - guns were way more common in the past and this sort of thing was rare or never. Now it's happening several times per year. Students or recent graduates or drop outs. Very disturbing.

Details will unfold, in particular was there a cop stationed at the school?

[imanaknut]

Father legally purchased the shotgun and a .38 revolver the 17 year old son illegally took from the house, illegally entered a gun free zone and committed illegal murder.

Cop was stationed at school, reports he exchanged gunfire with 17 year old shooter and was wounded. Sheriff arrived, who just happened to be headed to the school to present them with an award for their "armed shooter drills" and he too according to reports shot at the kid as he helped the injured officer get out.

[T2K]

"Abbott said earlier reports that the shooter used an AR-15 style rifle were wrong."

Of course some media outlets couldn't help themselves.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/break...cid=spartanntp

[Richard Simmons]

A lot of talk about hardening schools, more Rescource Officers, etc., but very little about gun control. I'm referring to Texas politicians, law enforcement officers, etc., being interviewed in Santa Fe.

The way I see it all that will do is move the scene of future shootings. If you can't identify and stop the individual or individuals before they act does it really matter where the shooting takes place? I guess you could say a bunch of geriatrics in a nursing home who've lived a full life are a slightly more acceptable loss of life than a school full of toddlers who have their whole life in front of them but it's still people dying.

IMHO we are a society in decline. You can blame it on the spread of liberal/socialist ideology, the Internet, cellphones, video games, immorality, the loss of religion in our lives, single mothers and the breakdown of the family dynamic or all of the above.

[Helen Keller]

I've been around violence my whole life and it hasn't affected me .



But what is pushed on TV,Movies and games blows my mind anymore. It's non stop images/video of people being shot or killed in some way .
Click on a station like TNT. damn near every show is gun fights and every commercial for all their shows in non stop gun fights.


I play some pretty realistic violent games , but I am responsible for myself. Some members of society aren't .

[jet3534]

Death penalty. I do not care about the age or mental health status. The person is caught mass
murderer. A shotgun is brutal. They are saying they are finding explosives on and off the campus.

God be with them.

It has to be done quickly and the right way, e.g., gas chamber, hanging, or electrocution. Do this and the school shootings will to a large degree stop.

[jet3534]

I've been around violence my whole life and it hasn't affected me .



But what is pushed on TV,Movies and games blows my mind anymore. It's non stop images/video of people being shot or killed in some way .
Click on a station like TNT. damn near every show is gun fights and every commercial for all their shows in non stop gun fights.


I play some pretty realistic violent games , but I am responsible for myself. Some members of society aren't .

To a large degree you have described the reason for these shootings IMHO.

[5.56NATO]

The alleged shooter had socialist images on his fb page wich of course was deleted. Also was reminded of this today;

“The government encouraged the manufacture and importation of firearms for the criminals to use. This is intended to foster a feeling of insecurity, which would lead the American people to voluntarily disarm themselves by passing laws against firearms. Using drugs and hypnosis on mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the anti-gun lobby. This plan is well under way, and so far is working perfectly. The middle class is begging the government to do away with the 2nd Amendment.” (William Cooper 1991)

And like the last kid, this one left plenty of hints as to what he intended on doing.

[Richard Simmons]

And like the last kid, this one left plenty of hints as to what he intended on doing.

How so? What I've been seeing is just the opposite of the shooter in Fl. This guy in TX had no run ins with anyone, no other students thought of him as being the shooter. Cops have never been to his house. Again, I just got out of bed and what I'm stating is what I saw/heard before going to bed last night and since waking up 25 minutes ago. If more stuff has come to light overnight please post a link.

[ltorlo64]

I predict this instance will fade away from the news stream fairly quickly. The reason for this is that it does nothing to further the agenda for "common sense" safety measures (read gun control and confiscation). This kid did not use an "assault weapon", nor a weapon with a large capacity magazine, he illegally modified the shotgun by sawing off the barrel, the guns had been legally bought by the father, and the kid tried to use and had some bombs which are already illegal. Even so this will not prevent gun control advocates from pushing for gun control by trying to ignore what happened and saying how much worse it could have been. But, this does not provide the ammunition necessary for the media to push for more gun control so it will fade away. Which is sad because this does more evidence that would lead us to things we could actually do. The problem is, as Richard pointed out at the end of his first post, the things we could do will point out the evil perpetrated on us by the religiously held beliefs of the left.

[Richard Simmons]

They must have found some more info on the shooter since last night. As I posted earlier the reports I saw/heard yesterday seemed to show this guy's behavior was totally unexpected. Today will I was running around town I was listening to FNC and they were saying the shooter and been telling other students about committing some kind of shooting, made some online rants, etc.

Still haven't seen any reports about an negative interaction with law enforcement prior to the actual shooting. Some of the folks they interviewed were talking about how the father didn't secure the firearms properly and should be held criminally liable, etc.

As I also mentioned a lot of the folks FNC is talking to from TX still aren't talking about gun control. IIRC the governor is talking about faster and more thorough back ground checks which once again have nothing to do with yeaterdays shooting since the shooter essentially stole the weapons from his father. How faster and more stringent background checks would prevent that is beyond me.

Most of them keep saying schools need to be locked down more. That's fine but as I've said before that just moves the scene since it doesn't stop the person doing the shooting. Just makes him or her pick another venue.

Chuck's post above is the first I've heard that the guy cut down the barrel on the shottie. Guess he did know or care that was illegal? I agree about it not fitting the narrative liberals want. I was expecting wall to wall coverage this morning. There was but it was all about the royal wedding not the shooting in Santa Fe.

[weevil]

How faster and more stringent background checks would prevent that is beyond me.

It won't........but the pols need to be able to say they did something about the problem.

All part of the dog and pony show that these shooting have become. Some loser wants to get his moment in the spotlight and join the ranks of famous psycho shooters, and of course the MSM who are more than happy to oblige them....get a high body count and we'll make ya famous, and of course the politicians, do-gooders and anybody else who wants to get up on their soapbox for their moment in the limelight.

This fucking country is becoming a circus of evil.

[Richard Simmons]

It won't........but the pols need to be able to say they did something about the problem.

All part of the dog and pony show that these shooting have become. Some loser wants to get his moment in the spotlight and join the ranks of famous psycho shooters, and of course the MSM who are more than happy to oblige them....get a high body count and we'll make ya famous, and of course the politicians, do-gooders and anybody else who wants to get up on their soapbox for their moment in the limelight.

This fucking country is becoming a circus of evil.

Agreed. I still think a large part of the problem is all the internet/Facebook crap. The younger generation don't know how to interact in person any more. Priorities are skewed. I had one of my managers send me an in depth email the other day about extra hours she had been working, needed to work and how that would effect this that and the other thing. That's great however, my office is 20 feet from her desk.

My response was to call her into my office and have a discussion. She was expecting an email exchange. I told her I have and will always have an open door policy and I'm not gonna sit there typing questions and answers back and forth when we're feet apart. I've had other employees come to me with complaints that they aren't getting replies to emails they've sent to staff at other branches or they don't understand the response they got and how should they reply? My response is usually, "pick up the phone and call the other party". It's like they have forgotten how to interact outside of a keyboard and a computer screen.

Here's how bad it's getting. A few months ago the manager from another branch called me to complain about one of my Project Managers. Apparently my PM sent one of his PM's an email about some info that was past due and told him he needed the info ASAP! The complaint was that my PM used an exclamation point and ASAP just like I typed it above. That made his PM feel threatened. Told him his employee was the problem not mine and not to waste my time again with such a B.S. "issue". In my office that would be a former employee. That's how fucked up people have become.

[weevil]

Violent psychotic idiots with no regard for the lives of others and only a passing regard for their own.

[Justin]

It has to be done quickly and the right way, e.g., gas chamber, hanging, or electrocution. Do this and the school shootings will to a large degree stop.

No, it should be done this way. Not just for mass shooters, but all criminals who have committed particularly heinous crimes.

[Justin]

I've been around violence my whole life and it hasn't affected me .



But what is pushed on TV,Movies and games blows my mind anymore. It's non stop images/video of people being shot or killed in some way .
Click on a station like TNT. damn near every show is gun fights and every commercial for all their shows in non stop gun fights.


I play some pretty realistic violent games , but I am responsible for myself. Some members of society aren't .

I grew up watching violent movies and played many violent video games when I was a kid (All of the Grand Theft Auto Games, Half Life, Counter Strike, Call of Duty, you name it), and I grew up to be a perfectly normal and responsible adult. However, I feel like there are many irresponsible parents out there who won't take the time to bond with their children and teach/instill values into them. Also, our school system these days is pushing all sorts of fruitcake nonsense with transgender-ism, homosexuality, and the absolute worst "zero tolerance for weapons" policy. I was reprimanded in the second grade by my teacher for of all things, "playing cops and robbers," and making finger gun motions. THAT IS NORMAL KID BEHAVIOR!

[Richard Simmons]

Things started going downhill when quit spanking their children. I'm not talking about beating a child but rather a good old fashioned spanking when they did wrong.

[T2K]

Increasing school security is not pointless - kids don't have a choice about going to school.

In contrast, going out socially to so-called "gun free zones" is generally a choice.