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    Scary when we don't produce all the components.


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    You mean to tell me, that if the US ever has an armed conflict with the PLA, that we won't even be able to manufacture our own bombs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    You mean to tell me, that if the US ever has an armed conflict with the PLA, that we won't even be able to manufacture our own bombs?
    That is incorrect. The linked article didn't say that. If you read the article you'll notice they use phrases like "strained" , "some suppliers", "could result", "considering leaving", "nearly all", etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    That is incorrect. The linked article didn't say that. If you read the article you'll notice they use phrases like "strained" , "some suppliers", "could result", "considering leaving", "nearly all", etc.
    This part of the article gives me the impression that we're relying solely on China for a precursor material used in our missile systems.



    Another area of concern is that a key propellant ingredient used in missile systems ultimately came from China.

    “Nearly all DoD missile systems use Dechlorane as a component in the insulation for their solid rocket motors. There is no domestic supplier for this material; the sole source is Occidental Chemical in Belgium,” according to a 2017 Pentagon report.

    “Even more concerning is that the precursor to make Dechlorane came from China. The Chinese source can no longer produce that pre-cursor and so there is now no source for Dechlorane in the world.”

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    Yes, nearly all systems use it. Apparently some don't. As far as the precursor I guess they must use other chemicals or everyone else is in the same boat we are. I didn't see anything in the article that said we can't produce everything just that there are some components we don't produce at this time.
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    China makes more steel in a week than we do in a year. In a conventional war that outlasts our resources and manufacturing, China will do to us what we did to Germany in ww2.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    China makes more steel in a week than we do in a year. In a conventional war that outlasts our resources and manufacturing, China will do to us what we did to Germany in ww2.
    Yep, couple that with the fact that Russia and China could forge an alliance and force us to fight a two front war; it's almost as if it's inevitable. China is just patiently waiting and building up it's military capabilities; the same goes for Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Yep, couple that with the fact that Russia and China could forge an alliance and force us to fight a two front war; it's almost as if it's inevitable. China is just patiently waiting and building up it's military capabilities; the same goes for Russia.
    Stanislav Lunev, ex gru colonel who defected to the US said the plan is to use Russian icbms and slcms in a sneak attack on the US, and Chinese manpower for the invasion. China starts at cali and meets the Russians in Colorado. Remember the bible passage that says when they cry peace and safety, sudden destruction falls upon them. So when politicians start spewing about peace and safety, well, you know what's going to happen next.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Stanislav Lunev, ex gru colonel who defected to the US said the plan is to use Russian icbms and slcms in a sneak attack on the US, and Chinese manpower for the invasion. China starts at cali and meets the Russians in Colorado. Remember the bible passage that says when they cry peace and safety, sudden destruction falls upon them. So when politicians start spewing about peace and safety, well, you know what's going to happen next.
    A bigger problem is that the CA government would welcome them with open arms and allow them to use their state as a staging ground for the rest of the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    A bigger problem is that the CA government would welcome them with open arms and allow them to use their state as a staging ground for the rest of the US.
    U.S. Questions Cosco’s Takeover of Cargo Terminal in Long Beach
    A U.S. national-security review has raised concerns about Chinese state-run conglomerate Cosco Shipping Holdings Co. taking control of a large container terminal in Long Beach, Calif., according to people familiar with the matter.

    The terminal is part of Cosco’s proposed $6.3 billion purchase of an Asian shipping rival, which holds a long-term concession to operate the facility at the Port of Long Beach, one of the biggest gateways for imports into the U.S.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-que...ach-1524249281

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