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    Washington is Trying To Take Another Step Towards Total Gun Ban

    According to this new initiative being proposed all semi-automatic rifles are "assault weapons". Shows how undefined the term "assault weapon" is.

    Stretching the already prevalent misuse of the term “assault rifle” to new extremes, I-1639 defines “semiautomatic assault rifle” as, “any rifle which utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round, and which requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.” This means that any semiautomatic rifle whatsoever, from an AR-15 to your grandfather’s tube-fed .22LR squirrel gun would be considered an “assault rifle” and subject to severe restriction.
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    Sounds like 1861 is warming up again.

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    California liberalism/Communism has taken a firm hold in Washington. I hope sane people start putting these Communists in their rightful places.....prison.

    It looks like none of them will stop until bullets start flying in their direction. They are surely doing their best to make this happen.
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    This would completely break my heart if this ever happened. I have been dreaming of retiring to my home state after my career in the Army is over and these fucking asshats are going to fuck it up for me.

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    Actually the more I think about it, 1775 seem closer to the current situation.

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    Second Amendment group asks court to block gun initiative from the ballot

    https://www.theolympian.com/latest-n...214222704.html

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    It should be blocked from the ballot and those sponsoring it arrested on treason against the constitution charges.

    Oh, and my baseball bat is a formidable assault weapon.

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    I-1639 petition flaw: can anyone fix it?

    https://www.theolympian.com/opinion/...214790960.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    California liberalism/Communism has taken a firm hold in Washington. I hope sane people start putting these Communists in their rightful places.....prison.

    It looks like none of them will stop until bullets start flying in their direction. They are surely doing their best to make this happen.
    Wouldn't they do a better job serving as "fertilizer"??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woogiebear View Post
    This would completely break my heart if this ever happened. I have been dreaming of retiring to my home state after my career in the Army is over and these fucking asshats are going to fuck it up for me.
    Come to Georgia, we are NFA friendly. Several suppressor makers here, AAC being but one of them. SBR's, suppressors, full autos all legal here. If you want ocean there's always Savanna.

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    Lawsuit Challenging Validity Of I-1639 Petitions Filed In Thurston County, WA

    https://www.ammoland.com/2018/07/law...#axzz5MXeSzm3N

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    NRA Challenges I-1639 “Bait and Switch”

    https://www.ammoland.com/2018/08/nra...#axzz5NJs7OTSo

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    Our Secretary of State does not support our Constitution and would like nothing more than for this initiative to be voted into law. I am hoping that as this initiative also violates Washington State law that she invalidates it. Unfortunately that will just mean it is put off a year or two.
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    Judge Sides with NRA, 2nd Amendment Foundation, Disqualifies Washington Gun Control Initiative

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ol-initiative/

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    I heard this yesterday on the way home. I have to call the SoS's office again and tell them that it is unfortunate that she refused to do her job and had to let the court confirm how outside our laws this initiative was. It won't matter, but I still feel I need to do it. I will probably write to my state Reps and Senator about it as well to ensure they know that our SoS is not upholding Washington's constitution or laws and that something needs to be done about it.
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    Washington high court reverses I-1639 decision, measure back on ballot

    https://www.guns.com/2018/08/27/wash...ack-on-ballot/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunreference1 View Post
    Washington high court reverses I-1639 decision, measure back on ballot

    https://www.guns.com/2018/08/27/wash...ack-on-ballot/

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    Interesting how MIcrosoft high-level people are funding this move.....
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    Amazing. The initiative does not even begin to follow Washington state law. First the SoS says that it is not within her job description to do anything but put the initiative on the ballot. Now, the Supreme Court for Washington says that the courts do not have the authority to stop a initiative that did not follow Washington state law from being put on the ballot. Why, then, do we even have a law that says how an initiative will be processed and put to the voters to determine if it should be put on the ballot. I have to wonder how the SoS and the Supreme Court would have ruled had this been a pro-gun measure. This has got to be one of the most egregious miscarriages of power I have ever seen.
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    NRA Launches Defeat Initiative1639.org Website

    https://www.ammoland.com/2018/09/nra...#axzz5PuLzJk2C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunreference1 View Post
    NRA Launches Defeat Initiative1639.org Website

    https://www.ammoland.com/2018/09/nra...#axzz5PuLzJk2C

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    Thanks Steve. I am getting the word out.
    "Nothing ever gets so bad that government "help" can't make it worse." Pat Garrett, March 22, 2014

    "HATE IS GOOD, WHEN ITS DIRECTED AT EVIL." PROBASCO, April 20, 2012

    I tried to push the envelope, but found that it was stationery.

    Have you heard about the new corduroy pillows? They're making head lines!

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