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    Another Anti-Trump Bombshell Turns out to be a Dud

    Another Trump bombshell turns out to be a dud. And CNN stands by their dud story. No wonder they are not as trusted as their advertisements would lead us to believe. I am also disappointed in Mr. Davis. I generally do not agree with him politically but have found him to be truthful and a person who is fair. I am not so sure I can say that about him now.

    Attorney Lanny Davis says he was an anonymous source in a July CNN story that reported his client, Michael Cohen, had privately claimed that President Trump had advance knowledge of the infamous Trump Tower meeting between his son and Russians — contradicting Davis's own words on CNN's air last week.
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    Yep just saw that! WOW! The Revelation that COHEN claimed that President Trump had advance knowledge of the infamous Trump Tower meeting between Trump's son and Russians was all BULLSHIT and Lanny Davis is walking back his 'anonymous claim' to the media now ........

    All of the Democrat's SICK FANTASIES are crashing and burning. Too bad they're destroying people's LIVES just to fuck with Trump......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    Too bad they're destroying people's LIVES just to fuck with Trump......
    No, it is what they get for standing in the way of progressives and Clinton.
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    It makes no difference that this is a lie. To the brain-dead liberals and Dimocrats, who use CNN as their primary source of "news," this will be seen as the truth. They will believe it, no matter how obvious the lie really is.

    They have their propaganda source and they believe every word of it.

    Goebbels left a legacy that CNN is living up to. He would be proud.
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    https://theintercept.com/2018/08/28/...es-to-comment/

    CNN, Credibly Accused of Lying to its Audience About a Key Claim in its Blockbuster Cohen Story, Refuses to Comment

    CNN’S BLOCKBUSTER July 26 story – that Michael Cohen intended to tell Special Counsel Robert Mueller that he was present when Donald Trump was told in advance about his son’s Trump Tower meeting with various Russians – includes a key statement about its sourcing that credible reporting now suggests was designed to have misled its audience. Yet CNN simply refuses to address the serious ethical and journalistic questions raised about its conduct.

    The substance of the CNN story itself regarding Cohen – which made headline news all over all the world and which CNN hyped as a “bombshell” – has now been retracted by other news outlets that originally purported to “confirm” CNN’s story. That’s because the anonymous source for this confirmation, Cohen lawyer Lanny Davis, now admits that, in essence, his “confirmation” was false. As a result, both the Washington Post and the NY Post outed Davis as their anonymous source and then effectively retracted their stories “confirming” parts of CNN’s report.

    CNN, however, has retracted nothing. All inquiries to the network are directed to a corporate spokesperson, who simply says: “We stand by our story, and are confident in our reporting of it.”

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    All this rumor-mongering is just bread and circuses for the masses.

    What's really going to be decisive is Mueller's report to Congress here in a couple months, and what his findings show Trump did or didn't know, from people who testified under oath (under penalty of perjury if they lied).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    All this rumor-mongering is just bread and circuses for the masses.

    What's really going to be decisive is Mueller's report to Congress here in a couple months, and what his findings show Trump did or didn't know, from people who testified under oath (under penalty of perjury if they lied).
    We know from Comey, Strzok and others that perjury means very little to them if progress to their goal is achieved.
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    Perjury in this day of above the law democrats? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    Perjury in this day of above the law democrats? Really?
    It's only perjury if a conservative commits it. Otherwise, nothing.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    It's only perjury if a conservative commits it. Otherwise, nothing.....
    And in many cases the liberals change the definition of perjury to get it to fit the case against the conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    All this rumor-mongering is just bread and circuses for the masses.

    What's really going to be decisive is Mueller's report to Congress here in a couple months, and what his findings show Trump did or didn't know, from people who testified under oath (under penalty of perjury if they lied).
    Oh, you mean the one where he will determine that he needs more time and money to do further investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    Oh, you mean the one where he will determine that he needs more time and money to do further investigation.
    That will depend on whether people keep flipping and providing more information against Trump and Co.

    Trump has been offered the opportunity to sit down with Mueller and end this once and for all, but Trump keeps stonewalling and giving excuses as to why he can't testify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Trump has been offered the opportunity to sit down with Mueller and end this once and for all, but Trump keeps stonewalling and giving excuses as to why he can't testify.
    Because this would ensure a charge of perjury. Not because Trump would knowingly lie but because Mueller would look for any difference between what was said and then use that for the charge. Similar to the case against General Flynn. The investigators said that Flynn did not lie, but Mueller, looking for anyway to get a scalp and look for bigger ones charged Flynn with lying (perjury). Mueller's investigation is not looking into a crime, it is looking into a person to find a crime. This is totally backward to our justice system and a violation of our Constitution. It is a travesty that it continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    That will depend on whether people keep flipping and providing more information against Trump and Co.

    Trump has been offered the opportunity to sit down with Mueller and end this once and for all, but Trump keeps stonewalling and giving excuses as to why he can't testify.
    Same reason you wouldn't go to the police station for interrogation when they can't even say what the alleged crime was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    Mueller's investigation is not looking into a crime, it is looking into a person to find a crime. This is totally backward to our justice system and a violation of our Constitution. It is a travesty that it continues.
    That's the nature of the Office of Special Counsel, though. Its charter is to investigate the person and look for any evidence of any associated crimes.

    I don't remember this kind of conservative hand-wringing and concern for the Constitution when Ken Starr was probing Monica Lewinsky's stained dress to dig up dirt against Bill Clinton. If memory serves, he was eventually charged with perjury as well.

    Republicans had no problem getting their witch hunt on 20 years ago against their perceived political enemy, so they shouldn't act so shocked to find the same hardball tactics being used against their own side now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    That's the nature of the Office of Special Counsel, though. Its charter is to investigate the person and look for any evidence of any associated crimes.

    I don't remember this kind of conservative hand-wringing and concern for the Constitution when Ken Starr was probing Monica Lewinsky's stained dress to dig up dirt against Bill Clinton. If memory serves, he was eventually charged with perjury as well.

    Republicans had no problem getting their witch hunt on 20 years ago against their perceived political enemy, so they shouldn't act so shocked to find the same hardball tactics being used against their own side now.
    Mueller's investigation was, originally, set up to determine if Trump colluded with Russia, based on a false dossier and illegal FISA warrant. As soon as everything was determined to be false and nothing more than a lie and funded by Hitlary, for the sole purpose of creating opposition to Trump, the investigation should have been shut down.

    When you start out with a lie, the best you can do keep on lying to cover it up.

    Mueller's investigations have carried him far beyond the original intent of its stated "purpose." It should have been shut down months ago.

    This whole show is just an attempt to overthrow a legally elected administration. It's nothing more than a coup attempt by the Left.

    IF Mueller were really doing his job, and not being a political puppet, he would have investigated the DNC and Hitlary for their collusion with Russia and their attempts to change the outcome of the election.

    Trump won, fair and square, but Hitlary and the Left can't come to terms with that.

    Mueller's investigation has be outside the Constitution since its formation and needs to be shut down....PERIOD.
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    There's no criminal statute for "collusion", they have to find some other crime to get charges brought. On that note, Natasha Vaselineskater or whatever her name is, the Russian who met with Don Jr at Trump tower, met with fusion gps just before she met with Don Jr and directly afterwards. Nellie Ohr worked/works for fusion gps, her hsuband Bruce is a top fbi fuhrer. Lotta colludin' round these parts, just not by Trump.

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    https://spectator.org/nellie-ohr-woman-in-the-middle/




    The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting involving Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya occurred during a critical period. At that time, Fox News has learned that bank records show Fusion GPS was paid by a law firm for work on behalf of a Kremlin-linked oligarch while paying former British spy Christopher Steele to dig up dirt on Trump through his Russian contacts.

    But hours before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, Fusion co-founder and ex-Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson was with Veselnitskaya in a Manhattan federal courtroom, a confidential source told Fox News. Court records reviewed by Fox News, email correspondence and published reports corroborate the pair’s presence together. The source told Fox News they also were together after the Trump Tower meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    That's the nature of the Office of Special Counsel, though. Its charter is to investigate the person and look for any evidence of any associated crimes.

    I don't remember this kind of conservative hand-wringing and concern for the Constitution when Ken Starr was probing Monica Lewinsky's stained dress to dig up dirt against Bill Clinton. If memory serves, he was eventually charged with perjury as well.

    Republicans had no problem getting their witch hunt on 20 years ago against their perceived political enemy, so they shouldn't act so shocked to find the same hardball tactics being used against their own side now.
    Are you really this fucking stupid ? Special counsel Starr had a crime to investigate, Mueller has no such thing, now tell what crime is he investigating ? It's just a witch hunt that has produced jack shit and will never end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    That's the nature of the Office of Special Counsel, though. Its charter is to investigate the person and look for any evidence of any associated crimes.

    I don't remember this kind of conservative hand-wringing and concern for the Constitution when Ken Starr was probing Monica Lewinsky's stained dress to dig up dirt against Bill Clinton. If memory serves, he was eventually charged with perjury as well.

    Republicans had no problem getting their witch hunt on 20 years ago against their perceived political enemy, so they shouldn't act so shocked to find the same hardball tactics being used against their own side now.
    Actually there was. As with most conservative things, except what can be portrayed in a negative light, it was not reported on by the MSM.
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