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    New "Scientific" Scare...

    As if man-made Globull Warmin's isn't enough to convince you, then how about adding earth's wobble into the mix.

    Man is one of the three causes of Earth's wobble becoming more erratic, according to NASA scientists....

    https://www.yahoo.com/tech/earth-wob...162018838.html

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    Maybe people shouldn't be concentrated in cities? LOL

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    Then you probably didn't hear about how bombs during WW2 were felt in space and changed the ionosphere.

    https://www.livescience.com/63677-ww...-of-space.html

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45655149

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...edge-of-space/
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    Too many obese folks in the US is causing the wobble, if the Govt. doesn't step and and ban something it will get so bad that people will be flung into outer space

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    If a massive earthquake like the one in I believe Chili a couple of years ago can change the rotational speed of the earth, I would guess it could also change the amount of wobble it has always had.

    Of course, any way to get control of we the people is more important that truth.

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    If the rotation slows down the gravity will become less... Won't it? The fatties will be able to lose weight without even trying now. This is a good thing. If you support gravity then you are fat phobic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rci2950 View Post
    If the rotation slows down the gravity will become less... Won't it? The fatties will be able to lose weight without even trying now. This is a good thing. If you support gravity then you are fat phobic.
    Quite correct. That is why the Moon, which rotates only once every 28 days, has such a low gravity. It's also why we are able to land on the Moon. It rotates so slowly, that we always see the same side; thus we can go straight from Earth to a desired landing spot without having to chase it around to the backside of the moon. It's why you won't find any LEMs of Rovers on the backside of the moon.
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    The Chinese 7 gorges dam has altered the rotation of the earth because of the weight of the water its holding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rci2950 View Post
    If the rotation slows down the gravity will become less... Won't it? The fatties will be able to lose weight without even trying now. This is a good thing. If you support gravity then you are fat phobic.
    ? can you remind me what the rotation has to do with gravity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    ? can you remind me what the rotation has to do with gravity?
    As far as I know, neither one is related to the other. A non-rotating object has gravity as well as a rotating one. Rotation shouldn't have any effect on gravity and vice-versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    As if man-made Globull Warmin's isn't enough to convince you, then how about adding earth's wobble into the mix.

    Man is one of the three causes of Earth's wobble becoming more erratic, according to NASA scientists....

    https://www.yahoo.com/tech/earth-wob...162018838.html

    I would like to say:


    The earth does "wobble" (precess is the proper term).

    If I recall, the earth makes one axial "wobble" every 45,000 years. In about 15,000 years from now, Alpha Lyrae (Vega) will be our north star, not Polaris

    By the way, "Vega" is pronounces "VEE-GAH", not "VAY-GAH". Don't believe me, ask Mike Collins (command module pilot for Apollo 11).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    Then you probably didn't hear about how bombs during WW2 were felt in space and changed the ionosphere.

    https://www.livescience.com/63677-ww...-of-space.html

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45655149

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...edge-of-space/


    That kinda sounds as hokey as 0bama's "birth certificate"... official and all that... laser printed in 1961. Uh-huh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    If a massive earthquake like the one in I believe Chili a couple of years ago can change the rotational speed of the earth, I would guess it could also change the amount of wobble it has always had.

    Of course, any way to get control of we the people is more important that truth.


    Who says an earthquake changed the earth's rotation rate?

    The earth rotates at a certain speed which is a product of it's mass and the rotational energy it contains.

    The earth IS slowly slowing down... due to the transfer of energy from the earth's rotation to the moon's orbit via the tides.

    This is causing the moon to slowly recede from us, and in eons to come the moon will be a tiny dot in the sky, in geosynchronous orbit (hanging over the same spot of the earth forever).

    The only other way to change the earth's rotational rate it to change the mass of the planet... and that's not about to be done by man's activity or even earthquakes.

    Unless a big-ass asteroid hits us (adding mass and slowing us down) or it clips the earth and knocks off a chunk (reducing mass and speeding us up), the earth's rotation rate will not change.

    Geez......
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    ? can you remind me what the rotation has to do with gravity?
    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    As far as I know, neither one is related to the other. A non-rotating object has gravity as well as a rotating one. Rotation shouldn't have any effect on gravity and vice-versa.
    I'm not sure but think about a merry-go-round. The centrifugal force tries to throw riders away from the center. Without gravity, centrifugal forces would throw us off the planet. By the same token, without spin, gravity would take over and increase our weight, possibly crushing us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    I'm not sure but think about a merry-go-round. The centrifugal force tries to throw riders away from the center. Without gravity, centrifugal forces would throw us off the planet. By the same token, without spin, gravity would take over and increase our weight, possibly crushing us.
    You mean centripital acceleration? The double cross product of the angular velocity and position vectors? There is no such thing as centrifugal force. You, as an object are standing on the earth which is rotating. Because your angular velocity is constant if you are standing still your velocity vector is constantly changing direction, the only way it can do this is by accelerating and the only way it can accelerate is if it is acted on by a force the force in this case is gravity. With out it you would fly off the earth tangent to the circumference. The gravity of the earth has nothing to do with its rotation. Your sensed weight might change slightly if the earth were to stop rotating but think of this, the angular velocity of the earth is constant so at the north pole your tangental velocity is much slower than at the equator, you won't be crushed by all of that "extra gravity" i promise

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    You mean centripital acceleration? The double cross product of the angular velocity and position vectors? There is no such thing as centrifugal force. You, as an object are standing on the earth which is rotating. Because your angular velocity is constant if you are standing still your velocity vector is constantly changing direction, the only way it can do this is by accelerating and the only way it can accelerate is if it is acted on by a force the force in this case is gravity. With out it you would fly off the earth tangent to the circumference. The gravity of the earth has nothing to do with its rotation. Your sensed weight might change slightly if the earth were to stop rotating but think of this, the angular velocity of the earth is constant so at the north pole your tangental velocity is much slower than at the equator, you won't be crushed by all of that "extra gravity" i promise
    Yea, what he said.

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    The only force that can cause the earth's rotation to deviate from it's axis is electro-magnetic energy - on a planetary or solar scale.

    So there is evidence showing that the earth's wobble has increased and the pole has been moving..... and it follows that there must be some cause - so the question is what's creating the electro-magnetic force?

    Some claim it's the Nemisis system/Niburu…. but I personally haven't seen any extra orbs in the sky - and I've looked using a welder's mask on several occasions just out of curiosity. There are all kinds of pictures and vids on youtube showing an extra sun and planets in the sky that shouldn't be there. Now there are also a bunch of pics of lens flares... but enough of the pics are genuine, non-lens flare pics as to cause me to look for myself. But, as said, I saw.... the sun and just the sun. Nothing else around it - and I tried at different times of the day and different times of the year. Nothing.

    So, back to the question... what's causing the electro-magnetic force strong enough to affect the earth's rotation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    Who says an earthquake changed the earth's rotation rate?

    The earth rotates at a certain speed which is a product of it's mass and the rotational energy it contains.

    The earth IS slowly slowing down... due to the transfer of energy from the earth's rotation to the moon's orbit via the tides.

    This is causing the moon to slowly recede from us, and in eons to come the moon will be a tiny dot in the sky, in geosynchronous orbit (hanging over the same spot of the earth forever).

    The only other way to change the earth's rotational rate it to change the mass of the planet... and that's not about to be done by man's activity or even earthquakes.

    Unless a big-ass asteroid hits us (adding mass and slowing us down) or it clips the earth and knocks off a chunk (reducing mass and speeding us up), the earth's rotation rate will not change.

    Geez......
    Geez, you're missing the obvious. windmills are slowing down our rotation.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.S.O.K. View Post
    The only force that can cause the earth's rotation to deviate from it's axis is electro-magnetic energy - on a planetary or solar scale.

    So there is evidence showing that the earth's wobble has increased and the pole has been moving..... and it follows that there must be some cause - so the question is what's creating the electro-magnetic force?

    Some claim it's the Nemisis system/Niburu…. but I personally haven't seen any extra orbs in the sky - and I've looked using a welder's mask on several occasions just out of curiosity. There are all kinds of pictures and vids on youtube showing an extra sun and planets in the sky that shouldn't be there. Now there are also a bunch of pics of lens flares... but enough of the pics are genuine, non-lens flare pics as to cause me to look for myself. But, as said, I saw.... the sun and just the sun. Nothing else around it - and I tried at different times of the day and different times of the year. Nothing.

    So, back to the question... what's causing the electro-magnetic force strong enough to affect the earth's rotation?
    speaking out of my ass here with no real knowledge of the subject but the earth isn't one homogenous sphere, it has multiple layers, a surface crust with plate tectonics that are actively moving around multiple inner layers, some of which are liquid and some which might as well be on a geological level. couldn't the wobble in part be caused by the earth acting like a giant gyroscope where changes in these layers cause the earth itself to move through conservation of angular moment? Momentum is also not conserved becuase energy is definately lost in the process of all of this stuff moving around. earth can also be acted upon by gravitational forces, not just EM. Just like the moon and sun affect the tide.

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