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    5,000 troops are on there way now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recon View Post
    5,000 troops are on there way now.
    Only in a support role though.

    They can't actively engage the illegals, due to Posse Comitatus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Only in a support role though.

    They can't actively engage the illegals, due to Posse Comitatus.
    Wrong.

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    Per the article:

    The additional troops will provide logistical and other support to the Border Patrol, and will bolster the efforts of the approximately 2,000 National Guard forces already there. The new forces are expected to provide logistical assistance such as air support and equipment, including vehicles and tents.

    National Guard troops routinely perform those same functions, so it is not clear why active duty forces are being used.
    The military won't be engaging the caravan. They won't be making any arrests.

    They are forbidden by Posse Comitatus from engaging in direct law enforcement functions. That is the Border Patrol's job.
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    They will slowly be allowed into our country for us to live near and support.

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    There upping the amount of troops again to maybe 15,000.
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    Trying to remember where I read this, but reports from Mexico is that the intruders are getting angry with the locals for not providing them decent accommodations. Some are also getting tired about the "Long March". (Look that one up friends to see how that ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Only in a support role though.

    They can't actively engage the illegals, due to Posse Comitatus.
    You know it's only liberal fucktards bringing that up, I got news for you dummy the U.S military can defend the border from an invasion, now STFU you idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksheep View Post
    You know it's only liberal fucktards bringing that up, I got news for you dummy the U.S military can defend the border from an invasion, now STFU you idiot.
    Not site that applies since none of the invaders are citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksheep View Post
    You know it's only liberal fucktards bringing that up, I got news for you dummy the U.S military can defend the border from an invasion, now STFU you idiot.
    Do you really think these people are going to be sneaking across the border?

    As asylum seekers, they will be granted "temporary" entry and amnesty, and allowed to come right in through the front door until their cases are heard in court.

    Of course, that could be years down the road. By then... they've disappeared into the countryside and laid several anchor babies, who will become automatic citizens by birth-right citizenship.

    The military presence is all for show, nothing more. The military will be looking on as these people stream right in through the front-door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    and laid several anchor babies
    There's hope for you yet
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    When the mob broke through the south Mexican border, several Mexican police were hurt by the mob throwing rocks. The libs will love this one, and the MSM will be playing it over and over for a few weeks, that Trump said if the mob pulls that with our troops, they will be met by returning high speed hot metal. Yes, Trump gave the ok to return fire if attacked, and rock throwing is considered an attack.

    And yes, one of the few things the constitution mandates to the federal government is the securing the border. Not to tell us how much water our toilets can use, not to tell us what light bulbs to use, and not to infringe on our constitutional rights, but to protect the borders from foreign invasion. We now have a president who will step up with constitution in hand, and the news media will go nuts.

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    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post


    I'm surprised a communist like LAGC is for open immigration. When it comes to re-distribution of wealth there will be less of it for him if the population of people looking for a handout increases.

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    CBN News Embeds with the Caravan: What We Discovered About UN Involvement, Foreigners and Felons

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018...ers-and-felons
    Some are asking questions about who is in the caravan, so CBN News asked our contributing correspondent Chuck Holton to check it out. He caught up with the caravan in the Mexican city of Tapachula.
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    People are also asking about whether or not there are so-called "exotics" in the caravan – people who are not from Central America. Holton went into a restaurant where he quickly found a young man from Somalia, which is in eastern Africa.

    The Somali migrant spoke to CBN News in English, saying he was heading to the US in a few days. "We want to take some rest, you know. We are tired, been on the road," he said.

    The Somali man revealed he began his journey north from Brazil. Holton also spoke with others from Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Eritrea and Pakistan who are joining the caravan to the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    I'm surprised a communist like LAGC is for open immigration. When it comes to re-distribution of wealth there will be less of it for him if the population of people looking for a handout increases.
    Non-citizens aren't eligible for welfare. They aren't looking for any handouts.

    Migrants are, however, hard-workers willing to do many manual labor jobs that lazy white Americans are no longer willing to do.

    That means more tax revenue and more wealth to be redistributed to the rest of us.
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Non-citizens aren't eligible for welfare. They aren't looking for any handouts.

    Migrants are, however, hard-workers willing to do many manual labor jobs that lazy white Americans are no longer willing to do.

    That means more tax revenue and more wealth to be redistributed to the rest of us.
    how on earth do you expect tax revenue from people who work jobs that are either paid under the table or their wages are so low that they don't pay any appreciable income tax. Then these non-tax paying individuals will expect to send their kids to school and their grandma to the hospital when she gets sick. That means my kids and my mom get less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    how on earth do you expect tax revenue from people who work jobs that are either paid under the table or their wages are so low that they don't pay any appreciable income tax. Then these non-tax paying individuals will expect to send their kids to school and their grandma to the hospital when she gets sick.
    Most of them pay FICA taxes, funding SS and Medicare for the rest of us old enough to collect. Yes, with "borrowed" Social Security Numbers often times, but that only means they are paying in without any guarantee they'll ever be able to collect SS when they get older themselves. They also pay sales taxes whenever they buy food or other household items, just like the rest of us. And property taxes through rent.

    The simple reality is, the Social Security Trust Funds would have been depleted by now if not for immigrants continually coming in to pick up the slack, due to declining birth rates among American women.

    https://www.economist.com/democracy-...s-deep-decline

    The current American birth rate among women has just fallen to a 30-year low this year, of only 1.76 live births per woman! A society cannot sustain itself with an aging population without a birth rate of at least 2.1 per woman!

    So long as American women are refusing to have kids, we NEED more workers coming in or none of us are going to be able to enjoy our government checks in the mail starting at age 62.
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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