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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    When you call someone far right folks think Republican. Call them a neo-nazi and I don't feel like that connection is as immediate which IMO is preferable since being conservative and a Republican has nothing to do with being a neo-nazi.
    It's generally understood that Republicans are only moderate right. Whereas the Democrats are moderate left.

    Nazis make up the far-right, whereas communists make up the far-left.

    At least on the one-dimensional "historical" political axis.



    On the two-dimensional Nolan Chart, things get a bit more nuanced. Where the Nazis and Commies usually fall at the bottom (authoritarian) areas of the chart, on the right and left respectively. And the libertarians and anarchists near the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    It's generally understood that Republicans are only moderate right. Whereas the Democrats are moderate left.

    Nazis make up the far-right, whereas communists make up the far-left.

    At least on the one-dimensional "historical" political axis.



    On the two-dimensional Nolan Chart, things get a bit more nuanced. Where the Nazis and Commies usually fall at the bottom (authoritarian) areas of the chart, on the right and left respectively. And the libertarians and anarchists near the top.
    Bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    It's generally understood that Republicans are only moderate right. Whereas the Democrats are moderate left.

    Nazis make up the far-right, whereas communists make up the far-left.

    At least on the one-dimensional "historical" political axis.


    You know that chart isn't based on anything objective, right? Its designed to say that real freedom is impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    You know that chart isn't based on anything objective, right? Its designed to say that real freedom is impossible.
    Yes, that is why many prefer the Nolan Chart to more accurately map the ideologies:



    Here, you have two dimensions instead of just one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    It's hard to get much further right on the political spectrum than "Neo-Nazi."

    Extreme nationalism, anti-immigrant, anti-multiculturalism, anti-leftist, anti-communist... all hallmarks of the political right.

    Why do you think all these neo-Nazis and Jew-haters keep showing up to these "Unite the Right" rallies, like the one that turned violent in Charlottesville last year?
    Actually, Nazism and communism are not that far apart. Both are a long way away from conservatism, especially in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    When you call someone far right folks think Republican. Call them a neo-nazi and I don't feel like that connection is as immediate which IMO is preferable since being conservative and a Republican has nothing to do with being a neo-nazi.
    The intention of liberals, Democrats, and the MSM is to identify Nazism with Republican political thought. It does not matter that liberal political thought is much closer to Nazism. Truth is of little consequence when trying to subjugate the populace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Yes, that is why many prefer the Nolan Chart to more accurately map the ideologies:



    Here, you have two dimensions instead of just one.
    How is it that liberals and Democrats are for taking away our right to self-defense and our right to free speech, on these two rights rest all other rights, but they are on the "Personal Liberty" side of the graphic. Liberals and Democrats say they are for "Personal Liberty" while doing their best to take it away.
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    No matter which chart you prefer, today, the Dimocrats have slid into the Communist area, aided by the Controlled Media that spouts Communist(Dimocrat) fake news articles every day without a second thought....just happy to appease those who pull their strings.

    Since Trump was elected, the Dims have come out of the closet to show the world what they really are......Communists who want to subjugate the US.
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    No matter which chart you prefer, today, the Dimocrats have slid into the Communist area, aided by the Controlled Media that spouts Communist(Dimocrat) fake news articles every day without a second thought....just happy to appease those who pull their strings.

    Since Trump was elected, the Dims have come out of the closet to show the world what they really are......Communists who want to subjugate the US.
    "Valar morghulis; valar dohaeris."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    It sounds like he was a far-right-wing extremist who was very concerned about the incoming caravan of illegals, and felt that Trump wasn't going to do enough to stop it.

    He felt that the Jews were behind the caravan, and that Trump was a "cuck" and a "globalist" who wasn't really interested in stopping the "Jewish agenda" of converting America away from a white-dominated to a more mixed ethno-state.
    His reasoning makes no sense. Why kill Jews when he's upset about the illegal invasion on our southern borders? Why not head to the border and shoot the illegals as they come across?

    Sounds more like liberal reasoning to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    His reasoning makes no sense. Why kill Jews when he's upset about the illegal invasion on our southern borders? Why not head to the border and shoot the illegals as they come across?
    I know, it's stupid. Even if you were to really believe "the Jews" were behind it, wouldn't it more likely be powerful Jews like George Soros at the top?

    Why target a bunch of random lower-middle class parishioners attending synagogue that have no power?

    That's just being an ignorant asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    I can't see LAGC's comments because i ignore his stupidity, but THE MEDIA names the shooter as a TRUMP HATER. That's the proof. I just didn't make that up from whole cloth.

    I dunno. Everything that I heard was that the shooter hated Jews... nothing said about Trump (although, of course, EVERYTHING is Trump's Fault™)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    Holy crap. the LEFT is insane. I just saw an OBAMA era official on Fox saying that this stems from ANTI SEMITISM on the right and the fact that we CRITICIZE George Soros who is just 'another Jewish Philanthropist" that we're the bad guys.

    So ANY criticism of Schumer or guys like George Soros, is ANTI SEMITISM and thus we can't criticize or oppose them!

    WTF???

    Not to mention Pelosi, Feinswine, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    I know, it's stupid. Even if you were to really believe "the Jews" were behind it, wouldn't it more likely be powerful Jews like George Soros at the top?

    Why target a bunch of random lower-middle class parishioners attending synagogue that have no power?

    That's just being an ignorant asshole.

    "The Jews" are not behind the shooting... the left is.

    Have you not yet noticed that there is a "mass shooting" around one month before elections? Like clockwork?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    "The Jews" are not behind the shooting... the left is.

    Have you not yet noticed that there is a "mass shooting" around one month before elections? Like clockwork?
    I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Left is behind both the shooting and the mail bombs. Like you said, a lot of coincidence this close to election time....plus the fact the Left just figured out there isn't, and never was, a Blue Wave coming.

    It's still not too late for another school shooting, or nightclub shooting, or concert shooting, or antifa attack in some large, highly populated area....after all, it's going to be Trump's fault anyway....

    Time for the Left to pull out all the stops before it's too late....
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    Time for the Left to pull out all the stops before it's too late....

    some kinda of large scale terror attack on that caravan perhaps?


    and they'll blame trump for not letting them in to safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    It's hard to get much further right on the political spectrum than "Neo-Nazi."

    Extreme nationalism, anti-immigrant, anti-multiculturalism, anti-leftist, anti-communist... all hallmarks of the political right.

    Why do you think all these neo-Nazis and Jew-haters keep showing up to these "Unite the Right" rallies, like the one that turned violent in Charlottesville last year?
    The Hitler lovers seem a lot like commies to me. How are they different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Keller View Post
    some kinda of large scale terror attack on that caravan perhaps?


    and they'll blame trump for not letting them in to safety.
    I think the game plan is to force some violence from ICE, or other Federal agency. The liberal media will be there to video this violence, edit the videos to support their agenda, and release to impact the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Left is behind both the shooting and the mail bombs. Like you said, a lot of coincidence this close to election time....plus the fact the Left just figured out there isn't, and never was, a Blue Wave coming.

    It's still not too late for another school shooting, or nightclub shooting, or concert shooting, or antifa attack in some large, highly populated area....after all, it's going to be Trump's fault anyway....

    Time for the Left to pull out all the stops before it's too late....
    I always liked the expression "pull out all the stops." The phrase will be around long after the last pipe organ is retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    "The Jews" are not behind the shooting... the left is.

    Have you not yet noticed that there is a "mass shooting" around one month before elections? Like clockwork?
    I wonder what the deep state involvement is. People consider anyone who talks about this sort of thing to be unbalanced yet there is plenty of evidence of their operations going back to the 50s.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

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