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    New York State does it again >:-(

    NY wants to ban firearms or alcohol being used as raffle prizes.

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    Partial bill text:

    A01413 Text:

    STATE OF NEW YORK
    __________________________________________________ ______________________

    1413

    2019-2020 Regular Sessions

    IN ASSEMBLY

    January 15, 2019
    ___________

    Introduced by M. of A. SIMON, STECK, M. G. MILLER, TAYLOR, ROZIC, VANEL,
    JAFFEE, CRESPO, DINOWITZ, CARROLL, DICKENS, ORTIZ, COLTON, MOSLEY,
    D'URSO, GOTTFRIED, BARRON, RIVERA, GLICK, COOK, BLAKE, LAVINE,
    BICHOTTE, HYNDMAN, FAHY -- Multi-Sponsored by -- M. of A. DAVILA,
    HEVESI -- read once and referred to the Committee on Racing and Wager-
    ing

    AN ACT to amend the general municipal law, in relation to prohibiting
    firearms as prizes in any game of chance

    The People of the State of New York, represented in Senate and Assem-
    bly, do enact as follows:

    1 Section 1. Subdivision 2 of section 195-d of the general municipal
    2 law, as amended by section 13 of part MM of chapter 59 of the laws of
    3 2017, is amended to read as follows:
    4 2. With the exception of bell jars, coin boards, seal cards, merchan-
    5 dise boards and raffles, every winner shall be determined and every
    6 prize shall be awarded and delivered within the same calendar day as
    7 that upon which the game was played. No alcoholic beverage or firearm,
    8 as defined in section 265.00 of the penal law, shall be offered or given
    9 as a prize in any game of chance.
    10 § 2. This act shall take effect immediately.

    JUSTIFICATION:
    Currently in New York State it is legal to raffle off a firearm in a game of chance.
    Many times games such as these are open to all individuals regardless of age.
    Firearms should not be raffled off in this manner.
    Firearm related violence is a significant public health and safety problem
    and weapons should not be given away in games of chance.
    "Regardless of age"?? A raffle winner of a firearm would still need to do a NICS check.
    Where's the problem?

    "Firearm related violence is a significant public health and safety problem"
    Any person who wants a firearm for "violent" purposes can just go to the gunstore and buy it. How is making one unavailable at a raffle going to have any relation to "public safety"?

    I can just picture it... a bad guy goes to a raffle, buys a ticket and hopes to win a gun. But, someone else wins it. Now, "Oh shucks, I can't go and commit that act of violence I planned".

    WHAT KIND OF DRUGS ARE THESE LEGISLATORS TAKING??? No NORMAL mind works like this......

    Hey Cuomo:

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    maybe they should raffle off abortions, considering they are all the rage these days.
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    In MD, a gun raffle has an age qualification. You can't buy a ticket unless you meet that age or are older.

    Why can't NY do the same thing?
    "Valar morghulis; valar dohaeris."

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    There must be something in the water. These are the same people that want to kill full term babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    There must be something in the water. These are the same people that want to kill full term babies.
    VA is trying to do them one better than that; the Gov. wants to pass a bill to kill babies even after they're born.

    Pretty soon they'll introduce a bill to abort adults who commit crimes. (Maybe the Dimocrats will go for the death penalty if the law calls it post-term abortion.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    There must be something in the water. These are the same people that want to kill full term babies.
    Wasn't Love Canal, that Superfund site, in upper NY state? Maybe that's what got in the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    Wasn't Love Canal, that Superfund site, in upper NY state? Maybe that's what got in the water.


    Good theory, except that all the leftist insanity in NY comes from the lower-right part of the state (Albany and NYC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    In MD, a gun raffle has an age qualification. You can't buy a ticket unless you meet that age or are older.

    Why can't NY do the same thing?


    It's not an age thing. The governor hates guns (except for the ones that his private JBT thugs - NYS police) carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rci2950 View Post
    maybe they should raffle off abortions, considering they are all the rage these days.



    Planned Parenthood Kept Babies Alive in order to Harvest Brain & Heart
    https://thewashingtonpundit.com/2019/02/13/842/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    Good theory, except that all the leftist insanity in NY comes from the lower-right part of the state (Albany and NYC).
    Water, like the Hudson River, flows downhill. Isn't NYC "downhill" from Love Canal??
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