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    Exclamation Notre Dame is in Flames!

    Hard to believe, I am watching it on Fox right now. Only the 2 Towers are not on Fire. Most likely it will collapse in time. Over 850 Years old. I was there as a Boy, in August, 1968. Paul
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    Really sad to see that landmark burning. So much history going up in smoke and flames. Looks like the local fire department is completely unprepared to fight this.

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    Any word on how the fire started?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    Any word on how the fire started?
    Only thing I've heard is that a renovation project was under way and the fire started in the work crew's location. I hear it took an hour and a half before fire engines got on site. They tried to use Fire fighting tug boats and water cannons but still couldn't blast water that high up to get to the roof area. Will have to check tomorrow morning on what is the news update.

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    That is sad.....one of the most famous places in the world going up in flames and it has to happen in our lifetime.


    With all the muzzies and yellow-jackets and various chaos and general insanity going on in France you have to wonder if it was really just an accident.
    Where are we going and why are we in this handbasket???

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    France is vowing to rebuild the structure, but still, the damned thing was over 800 years old. Nothing can replace something THAT OLD that stood for that long. But the great tragedy is all the priceless ART inside that is lost forever. Ugh............

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    I suspect arson.

    Did the Hunchback escape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altarboy View Post
    I suspect arson.

    Did the Hunchback escape?
    Could well be. I heard, on the radio today, that 17 churches in Paris have burned in the last 3 weeks. (But, they could all be coincidences....)
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    ON FRIDAY Female Jihadi Jailed Over Attempted Car Bombing Outside Notre Dame Cathedral
    On Friday Islamic terrorists Inez Madani was jailed for eight years for her attempted car bombing outside of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
    Madani was wounded with a knife in the belly of a police officer during the arrest in 2016.
    On Friday she was jailed for eight years in the attempted attack.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ame-cathedral/

    Shepard Smith Cuts Off French Elected Official For Speculating Notre Dame Fire Not an Accident
    “Even the Nazis didn’t dare destroy it [Notre Dame cathedral],” Karsenty said. “And you have to know for the last year we’ve had churches desecrated each and every week all over France so of course you will hear the story of the politically correct which will tell you it is probably an accident.”
    Shepard Smith immediately cut off Karsenty — “Sir. Sir! Sir! We’re not going to speculate here of the cause of something for which we don’t know.”
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ccident-video/

    South Carolina: Church Vandalized – Windows Broken, “Submit To God Thru Islam” & “Muhammad Is His Prophet” Spray Painted On Wall
    What is going on in Europe is the direct result of allowing the followers of a murdering, thieving, demonically possessed pedophile named Muhammad to run roughshod over their countries. The US has also been seeing a steady decline in Islamic jihad, Islamic political involvement and even fake “hate crimes” produced by Islamists. Now, it’s happened in South Carolina, where a church was vandalized, windows broken and the words “SUBMIT TO GOD THRU ISLAM” and “MUHAMMED IS HIS PROPHET” were spray painted on the outside walls.
    https://thewashingtonstandard.com/so...ted-on-wall-2/

    As Notre Dame Burns, European Churches Are Vandalized, Defecated On, & Torched "Every Day"
    In France, two churches are desecrated every day on average. According to PI-News, a German news site, 1,063 attacks on Christian churches or symbols (crucifixes, icons, statues) were registered in France in 2018. This represents a 17% increase compared to the previous year (2017), when 878 attacks were registered— meaning that such attacks are only going from bad to worse.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...ched-every-day

    ‘ALLAH EST GRAND’: Muslims laugh as blaze destroys Notre Dame cathedral during Holy Week
    Jihadists reveled in the fire engulfing the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, France, sharing media photos of the flames and billowing smoke, and comments expressing their joy.
    https://gellerreport.com/2019/04/mus...-inferno.html/

    Pakistani Migrant Faces Trial for Smashing Historic Church Holding Tombs of French Kings
    The Pakistani origin male, who had arrived in France only two months ago, will stand trial in Bobigny next month, accused of causing serious damage to the main organ of the basilica as well as smashing stained glass windows in an apparent attack that took place in March, Le Parisien reports.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...-former-kings/

    French Media Confirms There Were NO CONSTRUCTION WORKERS at Notre Dame Cathedral at Time of Fire
    #Breaking: Just in – French Media confirms there were no construction workers at the time of the fire at the cathédrale Notre-Dame de #Paris. #NotreDame #France. Also the church was also closed at the time of the fire. So nothing was going on the church.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-time-of-fire/

    875 Catholic Churches in France Were Vandalized in 2018 by Radical Secularists and Muslims
    CHURCHES across France have been set on fire and poo smeared on walls as the country’s Christian heritage is said to be under attack from “militant secularism”.
    Recent incidents have included a fire in Saint-Sulpice church in Paris, human poo daubed on a wall in Notre-Dame-des-Enfacts in Nimes, and an organ vandalised at Saint-Denis basilica outside Paris.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...s-and-muslims/

    Neil Cavuto Hangs Up on Catholic League President Bill Donohue After He Points Out Recent Attacks on French Churches
    https://twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/...737282/video/1




    I wonder how much more it will take.
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    It's Trump's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rci2950 View Post
    I guess that means that France will just tear down the remains of Notre Dame and build a mosque instead. They might as well, considering how they're being slowly overtaken by the muslim population anyway.

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    In a couple of news reports I heard, they said that the fire started in the roof, near where renovation workers had shut down for the night. The fire apparently started less than 15 minutes after the workers left.
    Let me ask a "baited" question - who are the workers? Are any of these renovation workers current or former "refugees"? Can you think of a better way to kick a major city in the guts than to destroy one of its most notable icons?
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    Nothing to see, move along:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevlex View Post
    You figure someone who is a professor wouldn't be up to such criminality.
    Also please note that no one, fox included, is reporting on how christian churches across France have been vandalised hundreds of times in the last few years alone, by mozlomz.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe Sound AK View Post
    Hard to believe, I am watching it on Fox right now. Only the 2 Towers are not on Fire. Most likely it will collapse in time. Over 850 Years old. I was there as a Boy, in August, 1968. Paul

    Why should they collapse? No buildings before or after the 9/11 controlled demolitions ever collapsed after fire damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    ON FRIDAY Female Jihadi Jailed Over Attempted Car Bombing Outside Notre Dame Cathedral
    On Friday Islamic terrorists Inez Madani was jailed for eight years for her attempted car bombing outside of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
    Madani was wounded with a knife in the belly of a police officer during the arrest in 2016.
    On Friday she was jailed for eight years in the attempted attack.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ame-cathedral/

    Shepard Smith Cuts Off French Elected Official For Speculating Notre Dame Fire Not an Accident
    “Even the Nazis didn’t dare destroy it [Notre Dame cathedral],” Karsenty said. “And you have to know for the last year we’ve had churches desecrated each and every week all over France so of course you will hear the story of the politically correct which will tell you it is probably an accident.”
    Shepard Smith immediately cut off Karsenty — “Sir. Sir! Sir! We’re not going to speculate here of the cause of something for which we don’t know.”
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ccident-video/

    South Carolina: Church Vandalized – Windows Broken, “Submit To God Thru Islam” & “Muhammad Is His Prophet” Spray Painted On Wall
    What is going on in Europe is the direct result of allowing the followers of a murdering, thieving, demonically possessed pedophile named Muhammad to run roughshod over their countries. The US has also been seeing a steady decline in Islamic jihad, Islamic political involvement and even fake “hate crimes” produced by Islamists. Now, it’s happened in South Carolina, where a church was vandalized, windows broken and the words “SUBMIT TO GOD THRU ISLAM” and “MUHAMMED IS HIS PROPHET” were spray painted on the outside walls.
    https://thewashingtonstandard.com/so...ted-on-wall-2/

    As Notre Dame Burns, European Churches Are Vandalized, Defecated On, & Torched "Every Day"
    In France, two churches are desecrated every day on average. According to PI-News, a German news site, 1,063 attacks on Christian churches or symbols (crucifixes, icons, statues) were registered in France in 2018. This represents a 17% increase compared to the previous year (2017), when 878 attacks were registered— meaning that such attacks are only going from bad to worse.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...ched-every-day

    ‘ALLAH EST GRAND’: Muslims laugh as blaze destroys Notre Dame cathedral during Holy Week
    Jihadists reveled in the fire engulfing the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, France, sharing media photos of the flames and billowing smoke, and comments expressing their joy.
    https://gellerreport.com/2019/04/mus...-inferno.html/

    Pakistani Migrant Faces Trial for Smashing Historic Church Holding Tombs of French Kings
    The Pakistani origin male, who had arrived in France only two months ago, will stand trial in Bobigny next month, accused of causing serious damage to the main organ of the basilica as well as smashing stained glass windows in an apparent attack that took place in March, Le Parisien reports.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...-former-kings/

    French Media Confirms There Were NO CONSTRUCTION WORKERS at Notre Dame Cathedral at Time of Fire
    #Breaking: Just in – French Media confirms there were no construction workers at the time of the fire at the cathédrale Notre-Dame de #Paris. #NotreDame #France. Also the church was also closed at the time of the fire. So nothing was going on the church.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-time-of-fire/

    875 Catholic Churches in France Were Vandalized in 2018 by Radical Secularists and Muslims
    CHURCHES across France have been set on fire and poo smeared on walls as the country’s Christian heritage is said to be under attack from “militant secularism”.
    Recent incidents have included a fire in Saint-Sulpice church in Paris, human poo daubed on a wall in Notre-Dame-des-Enfacts in Nimes, and an organ vandalised at Saint-Denis basilica outside Paris.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...s-and-muslims/

    Neil Cavuto Hangs Up on Catholic League President Bill Donohue After He Points Out Recent Attacks on French Churches
    https://twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/...737282/video/1




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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    Why should they collapse? No buildings before or after the 9/11 controlled demolitions ever collapsed after fire damage.
    Norte Dame is primarily stone and wood. If the wooden sections of the roof and other parts didn’t burn completely they were burned enough to diminish their structural integrity. Wind and rain over the next few days/weeks can further weaken and diminish the strength of the remaining supports and things will start to collapse.

    As far as previous structures go how many of them were 850 tears old?
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    I imagine 850 year old oak burns pretty well, how it got started is the question.
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