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    Is now the time to sell off big collections of weapons?

    I've been thinking lately prices are at a premium, who knows if the Senate will be held, I pretty much know if the Craps have total power what's going to happen in the SCOTUS and laws being written. I can only shoot one gun at a time with a couple backups if it comes down to the gov't raiding my home unconstitutionally.
    Might it be a good time to liquidate a vast collection and put it into metals or other investments, we won't be able to pass them on to our descendants IMO. Keep a few and cash in now on the rest? What do you guys say?

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    I just sold, through a dealer, an MKA-1923 bullpup shotgun. I bought it, NIB, on a whim a year ago, and have not fired it, nor am I interested in firing it. I have other auto shoguns that I love shooting, so figured I don't need it.

    I sold it for what I bought it for and am happy. I have a few BP firearms I'd like to buy, so may spend the money on those.

    As far as getting rid of any more, I have no intention of selling anything else.

    If the Commucrat gov't comes to confiscate my guns, count me a dead man. I'll do my best to take as many with me as I can.
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    No. Unless you are offered a great deal of money, no.

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    Ive been trying to figure out HOW to charge panicking LIBERALS a ton of money on my over priced guns here for months. But CA makes it illegal to sell without an FFL. All the Brick and Mortar stores won't take my guns on consignment without taking 50% and I can't get in the door anyways. All the kitchen Dealers are gone (forced out of business in my region). CA has been prepping for this for years (making selling one's own personal guns a pain in the ass). I've been saving my entire collection for when I RETIRE and move to a gun friendly state (if there are any more left considering the evil Democrats and their plans for the NATION, not just California).

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    Keep them, they will surely become great barter items in the great reset.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Keep them, they will surely become great barter items in the great reset.
    I was always told not to use items for trade that can be used to kill you.

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    I'm certain you will have friends you will want armed.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    Ive been trying to figure out HOW to charge panicking LIBERALS a ton of money on my over priced guns here for months. But CA makes it illegal to sell without an FFL. All the Brick and Mortar stores won't take my guns on consignment without taking 50% and I can't get in the door anyways. All the kitchen Dealers are gone (forced out of business in my region). CA has been prepping for this for years (making selling one's own personal guns a pain in the ass). I've been saving my entire collection for when I RETIRE and move to a gun friendly state (if there are any more left considering the evil Democrats and their plans for the NATION, not just California).
    When the SHTF, "legality" is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    As far as getting rid of any more, I have no intention of selling anything else.

    If the Commucrat gov't comes to confiscate my guns, count me a dead man. I'll do my best to take as many with me as I can.
    My sentiments as well. There are some I know that deserve it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    I was always told not to use items for trade that can be used to kill you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    When the SHTF, "legality" is irrelevant.
    Correct on both counts !
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    Keep them.
    Keep ALL of them.
    If Blubbering Biden and Cumbucket Kamala manage to get in the White House, they'll try something like this:
    Passing an Executive Order <--(pronounced Excrement Odor) that all semi-auto pistols, rifles and shotguns be added to the NFA registry.
    There will even be an amnesty period to forgo the usual $200 fee - BUT - you must apply within 30 days.

    The quisling politicians and their collaborators in the news media will praise this as a great idea, along with the usual paternalistic slobbering
    "Hey! It's reasonable, right?"
    "We just want make sure these guns don't 'fall into the wrong hands'. It's to keep our streets and communities safe."
    Next, they'll raise that suspicious eyebrow while asking in a concerned voice, "You ARE for safe streets, right?"
    "Besides" they add, "You wouldn't buy or sell a car without a title."

    They'll also try pushing the greed and ego buttons.
    "Wow! Just think how much each and every one of your prized toys will be worth once it's on the registry and transferable!"
    Gives a wink and a nudge; "Remember what happened with registered and transferable full-autos after the NFA of 1986 was passed!?"
    Grinning, "Not only will you be one of the 'cool kids' with registered semi-autos, you'll be rich overnight!!!"

    IF they can get compliance?
    How many here still have EVERYTHING that was purchased on a 4473 from a licensed dealer?
    Ever trade one at a pawn shop for a newer / better toy or do a private sale at a gun show?
    How many of those [in the free states] remember which firearms they did fill out papers on and which ones were private purchases?

    *knock at the door* Compliance agent is there with a half dozen other badges waiting in the front yard.
    "According to our records, you purchased a Remington 1100 shotgun from Wal Mart in 1996, but failed to put it on the NFA registry.

    You, "Oh, I traded that a couple years ago at XYZ Pawn for a Glock 17. That's the one on the registery."

    Compliance agent, "Yes, we show the Glock 17. Can you produce the Remington shotgun purchased by you from Wal Mart?"

    You, "No, I just told you it was traded for the . . ."

    Agent, motioning the badges over. "Sir, XYZ Pawn does not show any trade for the Glock. The NFA shotgun in question is not listed in their book."

    You, "We'll there must be some mistake. I made that trade in July or August of. . . "
    That's when your brain comes to a screeching halt and there's a sick feeling in the pit of your stomach.
    "Wait a minute." You take a step back, "I just now told you it was traded, how do you know they don't have it without calling . . ."

    Now the agent steps back, as the badges pounce.
    You're beaten to a bloody pulp and handcuffed.
    News crew appears an instant later to get footage of all your previously registered and legal weapons being seized.
    The media vilifies you as a criminal noncomplier with a stockpile of dangerous weapons.
    Along with the components for weapons of mass destruction hidden in your house! (laundry bleach / cleaning supplies / automotive fluids)
    A search of your computer history shows ties to anti-government radical and racist groups (including the dreaded GUNSNET Scourge of the inter-webs!!!)
    With the back-log of other NFA violations, it will probably take 60 to 90 days for your arraignment and bail hearing.
    But that's just the price of living in a 'free' and 'safe' country.
    "Right?" [wink-wink nudge-nudge]

    To repeat:
    Keep them.
    Keep ALL of them.

    Guns will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobeard View Post
    Keep them.
    Keep ALL of them.
    If Blubbering Biden and Cumbucket Kamala manage to get in the White House, they'll try something like this:
    Passing an Executive Order <--(pronounced Excrement Odor) that all semi-auto pistols, rifles and shotguns be added to the NFA registry.
    There will even be an amnesty period to forgo the usual $200 fee - BUT - you must apply within 30 days.

    The quisling politicians and their collaborators in the news media will praise this as a great idea, along with the usual paternalistic slobbering
    "Hey! It's reasonable, right?"
    "We just want make sure these guns don't 'fall into the wrong hands'. It's to keep our streets and communities safe."
    Next, they'll raise that suspicious eyebrow while asking in a concerned voice, "You ARE for safe streets, right?"
    "Besides" they add, "You wouldn't buy or sell a car without a title."

    They'll also try pushing the greed and ego buttons.
    "Wow! Just think how much each and every one of your prized toys will be worth once it's on the registry and transferable!"
    Gives a wink and a nudge; "Remember what happened with registered and transferable full-autos after the NFA of 1986 was passed!?"
    Grinning, "Not only will you be one of the 'cool kids' with registered semi-autos, you'll be rich overnight!!!"

    IF they can get compliance?
    How many here still have EVERYTHING that was purchased on a 4473 from a licensed dealer?
    Ever trade one at a pawn shop for a newer / better toy or do a private sale at a gun show?
    How many of those [in the free states] remember which firearms they did fill out papers on and which ones were private purchases?

    *knock at the door* Compliance agent is there with a half dozen other badges waiting in the front yard.
    "According to our records, you purchased a Remington 1100 shotgun from Wal Mart in 1996, but failed to put it on the NFA registry.

    You, "Oh, I traded that a couple years ago at XYZ Pawn for a Glock 17. That's the one on the registery."

    Compliance agent, "Yes, we show the Glock 17. Can you produce the Remington shotgun purchased by you from Wal Mart?"

    You, "No, I just told you it was traded for the . . ."

    Agent, motioning the badges over. "Sir, XYZ Pawn does not show any trade for the Glock. The NFA shotgun in question is not listed in their book."

    You, "We'll there must be some mistake. I made that trade in July or August of. . . "
    That's when your brain comes to a screeching halt and there's a sick feeling in the pit of your stomach.
    "Wait a minute." You take a step back, "I just now told you it was traded, how do you know they don't have it without calling . . ."

    Now the agent steps back, as the badges pounce.
    You're beaten to a bloody pulp and handcuffed.
    News crew appears an instant later to get footage of all your previously registered and legal weapons being seized.
    The media vilifies you as a criminal noncomplier with a stockpile of dangerous weapons.
    Along with the components for weapons of mass destruction hidden in your house! (laundry bleach / cleaning supplies / automotive fluids)
    A search of your computer history shows ties to anti-government radical and racist groups (including the dreaded GUNSNET Scourge of the inter-webs!!!)
    With the back-log of other NFA violations, it will probably take 60 to 90 days for your arraignment and bail hearing.
    But that's just the price of living in a 'free' and 'safe' country.
    "Right?" [wink-wink nudge-nudge]

    To repeat:
    Keep them.
    Keep ALL of them.

    Guns will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no guns.
    Yeah it's total craziness. I was just talking to a sister in law about this, she's of the it's just registration..... I wrote back to her: Okay now getting back to the NFA, To buy a machinegun, one of about 600,000 transferable in the country, It's a form 4 generally, $200 tax, two sets of fingerprint cards done by your Sheriff or police dept and the signature of your chief law enforcement officer, then about a 6 month wait before you can touch your MG(which you paid for in full and is still in the previous/current owners possession). Same thing applies to short barreled rifles whether you intend to build one(form 1) or buy one. Silencers can take up to a year for approval. Let that sink in for a minute, in a limited amount of items being sold it takes the ATF 6-12 months to complete it's processing before you get your taxed stamped form back to legally own the gun, or silencer.
    Now assuming(big assumption here) the American public complies with Bidens jackbootery idea how long do you suppose it will take the ATF to process 20 MILLION or more applications for so called "assault weapons" and HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of magazines treated individually as NFA items? You can bet there will be deadline for owners which will be exceeded by the lava like ATF process making tens of millions of American citizens instant felons.
    Now just imagine for a minute the time and effort the citizen will take. Magazines aren't serialized, so just the time to serialize them, the time to fill out forms for each and every single magazine along with the gun, and the time and money to to be fingerprinted on two fingerprint sheets for each and every single magazine and gun( they don't fingerprint you for free either), and CLEO signature for every single form. Now that doesn't even include the time that law enforcement won't be protecting the public because they will be so busy fingerprinting. Sound workable? NFA registration scheme sound plausible at all still? What purpose does his plan serve even? Can you explain to me what purpose registration serves at all? I can. You merely have to look at history and what many countries have done via to see what purpose registration serves.
    For what it's worth however, there's already a defacto registration. When the manufacturer sends a firearm to a federal firearms licensee, there's a record and the dealer notes it in his bound book. Now when you purchase a firearm, you fill out a form 4473 which the dealer calls into the ATF/FBI for your background check to NICS. That 4473 stays on file forever with the dealer and all those records get turned into the ATF if the dealer surrenders his FFL. The ATF can look at these records essentially anytime it feels like it, and have been noted copying forms en-masse in violation of the law BTW. The ATF has a long distinguished history of violating laws.
    What Biden wants to do is make gun ownership such a burden that the average citizen won't bother. As for NFA items, they don't instantly revert to your heirs BTW either. Your spouse or children go through the same process you did sans the $200 tax(mighty nice of the gov't not to tax the item again) but all the same hoops have to be jumped through, form, fingerprints for each nfa item and CLEO signature. NFA items can't even be touched or accessed by your spouse or children while not in your presence. Still sound like no big deal? It's just registration.......
    Now imagine you want to sell one of these so called "assault weapons"( which will no doubt by law will come to mean any semiauto rifle), which will increase the amount from 20 million guns to multiples of the 20 million, Your buyer will jump through the whole process again and wait years by my estimate to even take his paid for item home, just another method to discourage gun ownership.
    ALL rifles are used in approximately 3-400 crimes per year. Look it up, The FBI keeps statistics each year. Hammers/clubs are used more frequently to murder, fists are used more often. Handguns hundreds of times more often, so why the overwhelming need to NFA register semiauto rifles? Shouldn't we "need" to NFA register hammers and knives and fists first? https://www.personaldefenseworld.com...-fbi-crime.../
    Now after all that logic and fact, do you think Bidens idea is a good one? This is the typical mentality of the left. Hey I have this unicorn and rainbow idea, never thinking about the consequences and the unworkability in the big picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Now after all that logic and fact, do you think Bidens idea is a good one? This is the typical mentality of the left. Hey I have this unicorn and rainbow idea, never thinking about the consequences and the unworkability in the big picture.
    "Good idea" or not, "workability" or not, etc... it's all irrelevant. This is nothing more than a plan to disarm American citizens so that they cannot resist the communist, socialist agenda of the left.

    No matter what kind of "laws" the left dream up, WE, the People, need to say "NO". Or better yet, "HELL NO".

    We we owe it to our veterans, parents, grandparents and everyone who fought, got disabled or died protecting our country.

    Most of all, we owe it to our kids and grandkids to leave them with a better country than we had.

    We cannot let a handful of sick liberal lefties take our great country.

    With around 340 million firearms in the hands of around 100 million Americans, just who, exactly, thinks that we will just comply, register or surrender our weapons and let the country go to hell?

    That's an awfully dangerous delusion for them to operate under.

    What cop, with a family and kids and an income of only around $50K is going to risk his life and his family's life to try and steal a person's legally owned firearms?

    What federal agent, again with a family and kids and a salary of around $80K is going to risk his life and his family's life to try and steal a person's legally owned firearms?

    What US soldier, who not only has sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, but also is someone who loves this country enough to volunteer for service, will to go door to door and violate his or her oath to carry out illegal and unconstitutional orders handed down from the stained ivory thrones of insane liberals?

    No, this kind of crap is simply not possible. Any more than a person can jump in front of a train and stop it on it's tracks. There are still enough real Americans to say "HELL NO" and, if necessary, back it up with as much force as is necessary.

    Cops and federal agents have too much to lose. US soldiers (I am sure) will refuse to carry out illegal and unconstitutional orders. The insane liberal lefties are 100% hot air and would shit themselves if they even thought of doing it themselves.

    It's annoying, and I am 99.9% sure nothing will come of it, but if it does happen, this country won't be worth living in anyway.

    Come and take it!
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