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    Trump Supporters Are About to Increase Stupid

    I am hearing that there are plans for Trump supporters to conduct armed protests (ie the protestors will be armed with the weapons slung on their backs or in holsters) on the day President-elect Biden is inaugurated. This is a stupid and very foolish idea. Many of these same people believe that Antifa or BLM agitators at least helped to start the attack on the Capital. What makes them think that an agitator won't walk into the middle of their group and fire a weapon? And if that happens, it will not be like what happened when the accidental discharges that occurred at BLM protests were largely ignored, even one shot will be the headline for the next week to 10 days.

    The time for protests has passed. Those who attacked the Capital, and the vast majority were not Antifa or BLM (if any were), have ruined Republican and Trump supporters ability to protest for the foreseeable future. They squandered a great opportunity. It is now time, as it was for Democrats 4 years ago, to accept the election results and start planning for the House and Senate races in 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    I am hearing that there are plans for Trump supporters to conduct armed protests (ie the protestors will be armed with the weapons slung on their backs or in holsters) on the day President-elect Biden is inaugurated. This is a stupid and very foolish idea. Many of these same people believe that Antifa or BLM agitators at least helped to start the attack on the Capital. What makes them think that an agitator won't walk into the middle of their group and fire a weapon? And if that happens, it will not be like what happened when the accidental discharges that occurred at BLM protests were largely ignored, even one shot will be the headline for the next week to 10 days.

    The time for protests has passed. Those who attacked the Capital, and the vast majority were not Antifa or BLM (if any were), have ruined Republican and Trump supporters ability to protest for the foreseeable future. They squandered a great opportunity. It is now time, as it was for Democrats 4 years ago, to accept the election results and start planning for the House and Senate races in 2 years.
    I've been hearing that those are leftist groups promoting them, under the 'guise of a trump group'. Either way, I am saying to everyone within earshot .... DO NOT GO and tell anyone you know don't go. It's a set up if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    I've been hearing that those are leftist groups promoting them, under the 'guise of a trump group'. Either way, I am saying to everyone within earshot .... DO NOT GO and tell anyone you know don't go. It's a set up if anything.
    I am actually surprised it has not happened sooner.
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    Holy sh*t what's this about

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...y-declaration/
    Today, President Donald J. Trump declared that an emergency exists in the District of Columbia and ordered Federal assistance to supplement the District’s response efforts due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from January 11 to January 24, 2021.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Otto View Post
    Holy sh*t what's this about

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...y-declaration/
    Today, President Donald J. Trump declared that an emergency exists in the District of Columbia and ordered Federal assistance to supplement the District’s response efforts due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from January 11 to January 24, 2021.
    on the 6th, Muriel Bowser (D) mayor of DC refused DC police's requests for backup SIX TIMES. I'm thinking that she handicapped the police so that they WOULD lose control so that they can use the 'excuse' to crack down on dissent.

    I think that if ANTIFA or their ilk manages to stage a false flag attack during the inauguration, the MEDIA will use it as a Reichstag Fire to destroy any red state American left in the country. They might have intel on some violent actions planned. We need to be FAR FAR away from DC during this time.

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    I just heard on the news she put in the request to the president for this
    What a mess
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    Those who attacked the Capital, and the vast majority were not Antifa or BLM (if any were), have ruined Republican and Trump supporters ability to protest for the foreseeable future. They squandered a great opportunity. It is now time, as it was for Democrats 4 years ago, to accept the election results and start planning for the House and Senate races in 2 years.
    First off, the Trump supporters who 'stormed' the capital building did not 'storm' it, they were let in by capital police and even escorted around the building...one (at least) among the cap popo even took selfies with some of them. The Trump supporters were polite and peaceful.

    Those who caused trouble were antifa plants designed to discredit Trump and his supporters, and they have succeeded quite well apparently, as even you have fallen for it.

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    Any armed march on any capital will not be Trump supporters but paid thugs (fill in your favorite hate group).

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    lotorlo64 - I think we need to do TWO things:
    1. As you said, prepare for the 2022 mid-terms
    2. In order to do #1, state legislatures controlled by "Republicans" (more on that below) need to tighten the hell up on voter registration and absentee ballot laws

    The main problem now is the Republican party has a hardcore MAGA wing and a soft-ass Romney-esque wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable View Post
    First off, the Trump supporters who 'stormed' the capital building did not 'storm' it, they were let in by capital police and even escorted around the building...one (at least) among the cap popo even took selfies with some of them. The Trump supporters were polite and peaceful.

    Those who caused trouble were antifa plants designed to discredit Trump and his supporters, and they have succeeded quite well apparently, as even you have fallen for it.
    I would love to see any evidence to support this. I would like to believe it, and it may have happened in a few instances, but it was not the rule. The people being arrested and those seen doing violent acts were not Antifa, but Trump supporters. And even if a few Antifa got things going, it was Trump supporters who jumped in and helped, just like at most BLM "protests" this summer. And, back to my point, if Trump supporters think their protest was infiltrated and hijacked by Antifa, what makes them think that when they are all carrying guns that Antifa won't try to hijack that as well? With much more devastating results for us and more gains for Democrats and their Antifa supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2K View Post
    lotorlo64 - I think we need to do TWO things:
    1. As you said, prepare for the 2022 mid-terms
    2. In order to do #1, state legislatures controlled by "Republicans" (more on that below) need to tighten the hell up on voter registration and absentee ballot laws

    The main problem now is the Republican party has a hardcore MAGA wing and a soft-ass Romney-esque wing.
    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2K View Post
    lotorlo64 - I think we need to do TWO things:
    1. As you said, prepare for the 2022 mid-terms
    2. In order to do #1, state legislatures controlled by "Republicans" (more on that below) need to tighten the hell up on voter registration and absentee ballot laws

    The main problem now is the Republican party has a hardcore MAGA wing and a soft-ass Romney-esque wing.
    like i stated on another thread, most will just go back to sleep.

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    https://www.11alive.com/article/news...9-f63e85b8bff8
    ALPHARETTA, Ga. — Four men with Georgia ties have been arrested for making threats or taking part in last week's riot at the US Capitol.
    11Alive has learned that one of them, Christopher Stanton Georgia, has since died. The Fulton County Medical Examiner said his cause of death is suicide. They said he had a gunshot wound to the chest.
    ............
    An Alpharetta Police report shows Georgia died at his home on Saturday.
    The report shows officers removed two rifles from his home and listed his death as "under investigation."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Otto View Post
    https://www.11alive.com/article/news...9-f63e85b8bff8
    ALPHARETTA, Ga. — Four men with Georgia ties have been arrested for making threats or taking part in last week's riot at the US Capitol.
    11Alive has learned that one of them, Christopher Stanton Georgia, has since died. The Fulton County Medical Examiner said his cause of death is suicide. They said he had a gunshot wound to the chest.
    ............
    An Alpharetta Police report shows Georgia died at his home on Saturday.
    The report shows officers removed two rifles from his home and listed his death as "under investigation."
    I think that he realized that he RUINED HIS LIFE for talking smack at the wrong time That's why I alway say, you must be careful that even if emotions are high, you DON'T sound like a criminal or terrorist in your rants. They will twist ANY comment about 'making the other side pay' into a threat and then leverage ALL of their power to punish you. Unfair? Yes. But we're living in a very UNFAIR time. Don't let yourselves be taken out of the game for something stupid and small.

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    I would love to give you links to the news stories I was reading as this was going down, and within the next day or so afterward. But even on the conservative sites I frequent, it seems they've been memory holed, and a generic search (not google) turns up nothing but distain for and blame of Trump supporters for what happened that day.

    Does that tell you anything? I was watching (via news stories) as this played out in real time. Been searching...all the news stories I read over the day or so after appear to have disappeared...and it's all now been swept beneath that frayed rug that will soon adorn all domiciles our masters allow us going forward.

    Wish now I'd screen shotted it...had no idea that even Breitbart and Whatfinger would disappear those reports...makes me wonder now about even those news sites...

    But, here's the story as I followed it, that night and into the next day as reports appeared...believe that I read what I read or don't...your choice...the fact that those reports apparently no longer exist on the web may make my reports either more or less trustworthy to you, depending on your belief in my basic veracity.

    Trump (mostly) supporters came up to the gates that cap popo had erected and the cap popo opened said gates and let them in. They entered the capital in orderly fashion, for the most part, and it was reported that in some cases the cap popo were essentially leading them deeper into the halls, almost as if it was a tour.

    Earlier, there was a period where things turned bad...antifa elements started throwing stones and breaking windows, and Trump supporters were working to stop them.

    I saw several pics of some of the guys at the forefront of the problems, most were identified as antifa members from previous encounters with them in several cities. The Viking horn guy (you may have seen the memes) has been at several antifa protests/riots...there were several others who were identified and and correlated with antifa via facial recognition software.

    Those were what I was reading for stories as this was all going down, and into the next day or so...they're all gone, memory holed now, as far as I can tell (if someone can find some of those stories and post them here, I'd be greatful...appears my searchfu is inadequate)...

    There are only 2 possibilities here.

    I saw these stories, the pics, the analysis and I'm relating what I know.

    I'm a lying conspiracy theorist attempting to confuse and befuddle you.

    You know me Chuck...as much as anyone can know someone over this weird-wide-web shit...do you think I'm lying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable View Post
    I would love to give you links to the news stories I was reading as this was going down, and within the next day or so afterward. But even on the conservative sites I frequent, it seems they've been memory holed, and a generic search (not google) turns up nothing but distain for and blame of Trump supporters for what happened that day.

    Does that tell you anything? I was watching (via news stories) as this played out in real time. Been searching...all the news stories I read over the day or so after appear to have disappeared...and it's all now been swept beneath that frayed rug that will soon adorn all domiciles our masters allow us going forward.

    Wish now I'd screen shotted it...had no idea that even Breitbart and Whatfinger would disappear those reports...makes me wonder now about even those news sites...

    But, here's the story as I followed it, that night and into the next day as reports appeared...believe that I read what I read or don't...your choice...the fact that those reports apparently no longer exist on the web may make my reports either more or less trustworthy to you, depending on your belief in my basic veracity.

    Trump (mostly) supporters came up to the gates that cap popo had erected and the cap popo opened said gates and let them in. They entered the capital in orderly fashion, for the most part, and it was reported that in some cases the cap popo were essentially leading them deeper into the halls, almost as if it was a tour.

    Earlier, there was a period where things turned bad...antifa elements started throwing stones and breaking windows, and Trump supporters were working to stop them.

    I saw several pics of some of the guys at the forefront of the problems, most were identified as antifa members from previous encounters with them in several cities. The Viking horn guy (you may have seen the memes) has been at several antifa protests/riots...there were several others who were identified and and correlated with antifa via facial recognition software.

    Those were what I was reading for stories as this was all going down, and into the next day or so...they're all gone, memory holed now, as far as I can tell (if someone can find some of those stories and post them here, I'd be greatful...appears my searchfu is inadequate)...

    There are only 2 possibilities here.

    I saw these stories, the pics, the analysis and I'm relating what I know.

    I'm a lying conspiracy theorist attempting to confuse and befuddle you.

    You know me Chuck...as much as anyone can know someone over this weird-wide-web shit...do you think I'm lying?
    I don't. I heard a woman who called in, on either Rush's show or Beck's show, who said she was one of the people the police let in and even led them down the hallway. She said her group was very peaceful and the cop was joking and talking to them the whole time. She said the violence started in some other group and her group left before it got out of hand.

    So, the police did let people in, but the Propaganda Outlets don't want you to know about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    I am actually surprised it has not happened sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    on the 6th, Muriel Bowser (D) mayor of DC refused DC police's requests for backup SIX TIMES. I'm thinking that she handicapped the police so that they WOULD lose control so that they can use the 'excuse' to crack down on dissent.

    I think that if ANTIFA or their ilk manages to stage a false flag attack during the inauguration, the MEDIA will use it as a Reichstag Fire to destroy any red state American left in the country. They might have intel on some violent actions planned. We need to be FAR FAR away from DC during this time.
    You know the "Reichstag Fire" was the false flag used to suspend the German constitution and give the NSDAP (Nazis) "emergency" (dictatorial) powers (the "Enabling Act"). And the rest is history.

    BTW, the fire was staged only 4 weeks after Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor. Maybe Sleepy Joe is planning a "capitol fire"? I wonder if they'll blame Marinus van der Lubbe for this one too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    You know the "Reichstag Fire" was the false flag used to suspend the German constitution and give the NSDAP (Nazis) "emergency" (dictatorial) powers (the "Enabling Act"). And the rest is history.

    BTW, the fire was staged only 4 weeks after Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor. Maybe Sleepy Joe is planning a "capitol fire"? I wonder if they'll blame Marinus van der Lubbe for this one too?
    If he was a Conservative, then, yes, they would. If not, no.

    It makes no diffference if someone is alive or not; what makes the difference is what Party they belong to.

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