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    Roger...I owe you an apology...

    New footage found of WTC Building 7 just before its collapse...obviously a controlled demolition...

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...ise-more-lies/

    The idea it collapsed due to collateral damage from the falling towers never quite sat right with me, and knowing what I know now about our gov't...I'm now fully on your side of the equation.

    That said, I need some new conspiracy theories...all mine have been shown to be true.
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    How about these conspriacy theories?

    1) Biden stole the election.

    2) obama is Biden's puppet master.

    3) Cameltoe Harris' grandfather made money off the sweat of slave labor.

    4) The FBI and CIA are covering for ANTIFA.

    5) Almost all the mass shootings involving schools are false flag events backed by our government.

    6) Fauci is one of the people that brought us COVID.

    7) Joe Biden is an idiot.

    8) The MSM is a propaganda organization for the Democratic Party.

    9) 99.9% of all Democrats are Communists (Commucrats).

    10) RINO's are as bad as Commucrats.

    11) Commucrats hate America.

    12) Commucrats hate conservatives.

    13) Blacks are responsible for most of the violent crimes in the US, and are the cause of more hate crimes than Whites are.

    14) The Deep State is trying to erase the Constitution of the United States.

    15) Commucrats are trying to erase and re-write history to suit their agenda.

    16) Nancy Pelosi is criminally insane.


    Oh, crap. You wanted theories, didn't you?.... Sorry, all the ones I listed ARE NOT theories.

    Sorry for the mistake.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    Oh, crap. You wanted theories, didn't you?.... Sorry, all the ones I listed ARE NOT theories.

    Sorry for the mistake.....
    You bastard! For a moment I thought there was something new under the sun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable View Post
    New footage found of WTC Building 7 just before its collapse...obviously a controlled demolition...

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...ise-more-lies/

    The idea it collapsed due to collateral damage from the falling towers never quite sat right with me, and knowing what I know now about our gov't...I'm now fully on your side of the equation.

    That said, I need some new conspiracy theories...all mine have been shown to be true.
    By "Roger" do you mean me? If so, no problem.

    Today's "conspiracy theory" invariably becomes tomorrow's fact. It's been true much longer than 9/11.

    Recall "Operation Canned Goods" (the "Polish" attack on the Gleiwitz, Poland radio transmitter used to justify the 30 September 1939 invasion of Poland)(start of WW-II) or the "Reichstag Fire" started by the SS and blamed on communists to justify suspending the German constitution, etc...

    It's the way governments get what they want... by exploiting the naivety of the general public.

    Nowadays, I don't even wait for conspiracy "theories" to be proven factual. If the government says it, I automatically know it's a lie. Saves time.
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    Only problem here is no pictures of WTC 7 match the small portion of the building shown being demolished in the video. Gotta call BS on the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Only problem here is no pictures of WTC 7 match the small portion of the building shown being demolished in the video. Gotta call BS on the video.
    Here's a pic I found of 7 with an image search:

    https://external-content.duckduckgo....6pid%3DApi&f=1

    Looks like the same building to me...
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    Ever since the COVID-19 scamdemic?

    The only difference between a wild-eyed conspiracy theory and breaking news is about 10 to 12 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobeard View Post
    Ever since the COVID-19 scamdemic?

    The only difference between a wild-eyed conspiracy theory and breaking news is about 10 to 12 months.
    Exactly.
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    Yeah Krup really called it on the zionists years ago. Pretty sure I first heard of the USS Liberty from you.

    Hard to believe we just had a president that was friends with Rudy Giuliani and Larry Silverstein and told the public on live news he thought it was controlled demolition and yet remained the lapdog of the people truly behind the event. Shouldn't be surprised though since that was who bailed him out after his casino bankruptcy. Not to mention his mentorship under Roy Cohn.
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    Here's another to start wondering about
    Only a few seconds at the beginning
    Miami apartment collapse



    I heard a neighbor interviewed this morning with the name of Cohen
    That's a Jewish name isn't it?
    Is that a Jewish neighborhood?
    Gotta wonder
    There's another out there from inside an apartment for a few seconds
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    That one from inside a unit is really creepy. Between the particles of ceiling/wall coming down, the creaking, groaning, breaking sounds...to the camera's sudden destruction...
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    Curiosity got the best of me

    Many members of Jewish community feared among 99 missing in Miami condo collapse
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/many-m...ondo-collapse/
    Israeli nationals reportedly among those unaccounted for after tower collapses in heavily Orthodox area north of Miami; dozens pulled from rubble as rescuers search for more
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    If I recall correctly, one of the Jewish portions of the 9/11 conspiracy theory was that none of the 5000+ Jews who worked in the towers showed up on 9/11...

    So I'm not sure how this building being in a predominantly Jewish area of Miami quite fits with that, unless you're suggesting the Jews were schvitzing to sacrifice some of their own.

    Also, there are reports that the underlying ground in the area had been slowly subsiding for years, and that a fairly recent inspection had determined the building was unsafe, something hidden from the residents. Not seeing the conspiracy portion of this, unless it's from the standpoint of the building owners hiding the structural safety defects in order to collect rents as long as possible...meaning they'll be bankrupt once the lawsuits are played out...
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    Surprised they aren't blaming it on white supremacy..... Shit happens, engineers aren't gods. Concrete mix and rebar aren't perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable View Post
    So I'm not sure how this building being in a predominantly Jewish area of Miami quite fits with that, unless you're suggesting the Jews were schvitzing to sacrifice some of their own.
    I was focused more on the "controlled demolition" not so much 9/11 part of the OP
    This came along since the start of the thread and seemed to fit in
    With what's going on in Israel these days ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Surprised they aren't blaming it on white supremacy..... Shit happens, engineers aren't gods. Concrete mix and rebar aren't perfect.
    Nope, Trump did it.
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    The first reports i heard said there was a roofing crew on site and they had a crane on site as well. In the 40 yrs i spent in commercial roofing, i've seen a few roof collapses cause by overloading the roof when staging materials, especially when re-roofing old buildings that the owners milked profits for 40 yrs and never put money back to repair structural issues, most just plastered and painted over serious structural issues. If there were foundation issues the added weight of roof materials could have been the straw that broke the camels back. Not sure about any of this, just a possibility that i've had a lot of experience with.

    Me and my crew were on a big warehouse job when the HVAC contractor dropped a 16'x24' rooftop unit through the roof, we were a couple hundred feet away, but it felt like the whole building was coming down.

    After watching the video there is a lot more destruction than i originally thought so i'm probably completely wrong on this....

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    On some of the news reports that I have watched and read, because of the environmental concerns in that area (high moisture & salt air), buildings are required to undergo an engineering structural analysis. This building was built in 1981 and was being examined. Other reports have made suppositions that the building was built on "fill" land and that the building has been sinking/shifting for as much as 10 years. More than one resident has commented on hearing strange noises (pops, creaks, groans, etc.) for as much as a week.
    As for the some of the missing residents, one article I read said that some family members of Paraguay's political elite lived in the building.
    AND, the first lawsuit has been filed, this one against the Home Owner's Association. I don't remember by whom however.
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