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    "Death of Democracy"

    Yes, I know that what we actually have is a "representative republic" but this story is just "food for thought".
    As you read the lower portion, you'll realize that is over 20 years old but I believe it is still worth the read.


    DEATH OF DEMOCRACY

    At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinburgh) had this to say about ‘The Fall of The Athenian Republic’ some 2,000 years prior.
    “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
    “The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    From Bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage.”


    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election:

    Population of counties won by:
    Gore = 127 million - - - - Bush = 143 million

    Square miles of land won by:
    Gore = 580,000 - - - - Bush = 2,427,000

    States won by:
    Gore = 19 - - - - Bush = 29

    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
    Gore = 13.2 - - - - Bush = 2.1

    Professor Olson adds:
    “In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare...”. Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the ‘complacency’ and ‘apathy’ phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy; with some 40 percent of the nation’s population already having reached the ‘governmental dependency’ phase.
    “I have little patience with people who take the Bill of Rights for granted. The Bill of Rights, contained in the first ten amendments to the Constitution, is every American’s guarantee of freedom.” - - President Harry S. Truman, “Years of Trial and Hope”

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    They have more than supplied and transported enough "votes" to select the latter.

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    From Bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage
    The older I get the easier it is to see the pattern of human behavior that has not changed since the creation.
    For those who know, the pattern described above is the same pattern demonstrated in the Old Testament where God chose a people to use as an example for all time, and regardless of the liberal fantasy that has been taught and perpetrated upon us forever, mankind does not change, does not get better...we all suffer the same root cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    The older I get the easier it is to see the pattern of human behavior that has not changed since the creation.
    For those who know, the pattern described above is the same pattern demonstrated in the Old Testament where God chose a people to use as an example for all time, and regardless of the liberal fantasy that has been taught and perpetrated upon us forever, mankind does not change, does not get better...we all suffer the same root cause.
    Sad but pretty accurate.
    “I have little patience with people who take the Bill of Rights for granted. The Bill of Rights, contained in the first ten amendments to the Constitution, is every American’s guarantee of freedom.” - - President Harry S. Truman, “Years of Trial and Hope”

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    The older I get the easier it is to see the pattern of human behavior that has not changed since the creation.
    For those who know, the pattern described above is the same pattern demonstrated in the Old Testament where God chose a people to use as an example for all time, and regardless of the liberal fantasy that has been taught and perpetrated upon us forever, mankind does not change, does not get better...we all suffer the same root cause.
    And this is exactly what Martin Armstrong has learned, and been taught by his AI computer program Socrates as it's examined history from the earliest recorded inputs.

    Human nature does not change, and so we relive the past, again and again...proving Einstein's definition of insanity.

    All while those of us who have learned the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them with the imbeciles who refuse to learn and comprehend.

    I'm put in mind of a conversation I had with an IT exec once when I was a senior consultant at a small software company I worked for. She was particularly pissed at a problem that had occurred with our software, caused by one of their users doing something the software had not (yet) been designed to compensate for...i.e., no error trapping to prevent such action. She was really pissed and it was a very contentious call, but that was part of my position...to deal with such calls...and I was damn good at it.

    I finally said to her, "Diane...we try to make the software as idiot proof as possible...unfortunately the world keeps building bigger idiots."

    Got the biggest laugh out of that woman that I'd ever heard, anger deflected, and then we were able to work on a solution to the problem our software and their idiot had created.

    God, the world, history...call it what you will...keeps trying to show us the way...but there are always bigger idiots that come along and fuck up the works.
    Last edited by Oswald Bastable; 02-07-2023 at 04:58 PM.
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    He, Who Will Not Reason, Is a Bigot; He, Who Cannot, Is a Fool; and He, Who Dares Not, Is a Slave. -Sir William Drummond

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