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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    Europe's been quietly investing in high speed rail for years.

    North America covers about double the land area and has somewhere between only 2/3-1/2 the population depending on how you define Western Europe. Even if we just built a few select routes in highly populated areas most people would have to drive to a train station to ride anyway.

    Liberal politicians here float the idea once and a while and can't ever seem to make the numbers appealing even with their usual low level of f actuality.

    Aside, the leftists here would all scream about the environment and either block or attempt to sabotage any construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syph View Post
    The British government has changed a lot in 200 years!
    And we still don't like your style of Government. Most of us prefer passing our own laws instead of having our Government telling us what to do. In fact, it seems not many Brits enjoy their lifestyle. They're moving abroad faster than others are moving to Briton! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rt-the-UK.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63DH8 View Post
    ...They're moving abroad faster than others are moving to Briton!
    With the exception of the ragheads... They're taking over the UK about as fast as the Mexicans are taking over the SW states. At least the Mexicans aren't bringing Sharia law with them. Wasn't it the UK that took the holocaust out of their school history books because it offended the ragheads? Such enlightened pussies they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx Dogblaster View Post
    With the exception of the ragheads... They're taking over the UK about as fast as the Mexicans are taking over the SW states. At least the Mexicans aren't bringing Sharia law with them. Wasn't it the UK that took the holocaust out of their school history books because it offended the ragheads? Such enlightened pussies they are.
    Not to mention the problems the Brits are having with illegal Polskis. I don't know where y'all get off saying your system of government is better then ours. If it is so great then why does Ireland, and Scotland want to have nothing to do with your wonderful United Kingdom? I look at Ireland and the UK, the same way as I look at the Kurds and Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx Dogblaster View Post
    With the exception of the ragheads... They're taking over the UK about as fast as the Mexicans are taking over the SW states. At least the Mexicans aren't bringing Sharia law with them. Wasn't it the UK that took the holocaust out of their school history books because it offended the ragheads? Such enlightened pussies they are.
    How much BS do they feed you out here? We clearly aren't the only once being indoctrinated.

    The Holocaust is in the history books and there is a mandatory week of education in the UK where the remaining holocaust survivors are invited to every state school in the country.

    It's only the crazy muslim schools that exclude the holocaust.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nimbly View Post
    If it is so great then why does Ireland, and Scotland want to have nothing to do with your wonderful United Kingdom? I look at Ireland and the UK, the same way as I look at the Kurds and Iraq.
    Ireland is divided because the Irish Anglicans want to be part of England and the Irish Catholics wanted to rule themselves.

    Scotland is one of the most socialist countries in the world with an NHS, free university education for all, unemployment benefit etc. There public services would destroy their economy if they left the UK.

    My mother is a Scot, and like 99% of them she is a hand-on-heart socialist. She'd even call herself a christian socialist!

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    Syph, how about addressing the fact that your countrymen aren't tolerating what's going on in your country, but they're doing so by moving out? It's at the tune of over 207,000 British citizens left the country last year. That's about one every three minutes. After the invasion is over, who will be left to rule British Empire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63DH8 View Post
    After the invasion is over, who will be left to rule British Empire?
    The Prime Mullah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charliebravo View Post
    The Prime Mullah?
    My ex married a Brit. He left England because he enjoys the freedom to choose to do what he wanted to do over here compared to his former homeland. I say "former" because he loves our freedoms enough to become a US citizen. He's a good man. He's a hard worker and never goes a few weeks before getting another job or creating a business. Best of all, he keeps my ex out of my hair! I'm glad he became an American!

    In the end, there may be only a mullah left ruling the Country there! btw... It's not much different than how the Muzzies took over Montenegro and other Balkan countries. They couldn't take it over by force, so they took it over by populating the country, then take it over by becoming the majority and voting it away from the original population. They'll use the laws to their advantage.
    If I weren't supposed to shoot guns, why did God give me trigger fingers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syph View Post

    It's only the crazy muslim schools that exclude the holocaust.
    So that's OK with you then?

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    Errrrr, well, gun saturation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63DH8 View Post
    It's at the tune of over 207,000 British citizens left the country last year.
    I was tempted at one point but the USA is saturated with doctors so it would be pointless anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by 63DH8 View Post
    After the invasion is over, who will be left to rule British Empire?
    1. Britain doesn't have an empire any more because we have other priorities than illegal imperialism.
    2. The UK is a multicultural society and fundamentally secularist. We have a tiny number of muslims peers and very few muslim MPs. They have no political power as of yet. They are here for money and jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by 63DH8 View Post
    He left England because he enjoys the freedom to choose to do what he wanted to do over here compared to his former homeland.
    If he left the country because he didn't want to pay taxes then that is his imperative.

    Quote Originally Posted by 63DH8 View Post
    In the end, there may be only a mullah left ruling the Country there! btw... It's not much different than how the Muzzies took over Montenegro and other Balkan countries. They couldn't take it over by force, so they took it over by populating the country, then take it over by becoming the majority and voting it away from the original population. They'll use the laws to their advantage.
    You cannot equate former soviet states with the UK. The muslims were a persecuted minority and therefore became fiercely religious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo GED View Post
    So that's OK with you then?
    Your words not mine. Schools that fund themselves don't need to heed the national curriculum.

    Anyway, the first amendment guarantees free speech... you would have let it happen in the USA otherwise your constitution stands for nought. Unless muslims can't be American...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syph View Post
    Your words not mine. Schools that fund themselves don't need to heed the national curriculum.

    Anyway, the first amendment guarantees free speech... you would have let it happen in the USA otherwise your constitution stands for nought. Unless muslims can't be American...
    My words? What the hell are you talking about? I ASKED YOU A QUESTION Syph! Are you going to answer it or just keep rambling nonsnese.

    Is it O.K. with you that Madrassas are not teaching their students (your peers) about the holocaust for purely racist reasons?

    As for our "rights". Yeah, you can do or think whatever stupid shit you want in thsi country but there are reprocussions. As in, if your the kind of scum fuck that want's to deny the holocaust publicly, you may find it difficult to function in most of our society. As in, hard to get jobs, not get kicked out of school, not get sued for defemation, etc...

    So, are you going to give your opinion on Englands blind eye towrds racism in schools, or just say some more ignorant shit about our constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syph View Post
    1. Britain doesn't have an empire any more because we have other priorities than illegal imperialism.
    Bullshit. You simply traded your empire for services. Now it's left to the U.S. taxpayer to subsidize your defense. You Limeys will sit on your side of the pond mocking us for our guns and religion, yet come slithering back every time one of your neighbors casts a covetous eye to their west. Please don't lecture us on our failure to provide adequate "benefits" to our citizens. Once we're done subsidzing the defense of Europe, there's not much money left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charliebravo View Post
    Bullshit. You simply traded your empire for services. Now it's left to the U.S. taxpayer to subsidize your defense. You Limeys will sit on your side of the pond mocking us for our guns and religion, yet come slithering back every time one of your neighbors casts a covetous eye to their west. Please don't lecture us on our failure to provide adequate "benefits" to our citizens. Once we're done subsidzing the defense of Europe, there's not much money left.
    No worries mate, Russia will save us just like it did in WW2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    No worries mate, Russia will save us just like it did in WW2.
    Yeah, but then we'd be stuck with flying food to you like we had to do in Berlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    No worries mate, Russia will save us just like it did in WW2.

    Yeah, they had nothing but good intentions at the end of of WWII and during the Cold War. Your intellectual dishonesty is pathetic. We should have let the Germans or Soviets grind you like sausage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefferson View Post
    We should have let the Germans or Soviets grind you like sausage.
    Due to my Anglo-Scot-Irish heritage, I always thought that I would gladly pick up a rifle myself to defend the tiny islands if necessary. After all, aside from the minor tiff in the 1700's, we still share a common language, history, and culture. Then I discovered the Brit forums. Now I've decided to watch the fall of the U.K. on Fox......that's if the ruling Mullahs don't put a media blackout on the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charliebravo View Post
    Due to my Anglo-Scot-Irish heritage, I always thought that I would gladly pick up a rifle myself to defend the tiny islands if necessary. After all, aside from the minor tiff in the 1700's, we still share a common language, history, and culture. Then I discovered the Brit forums. Now I've decided to watch the fall of the U.K. on Fox......that's if the ruling Mullahs don't put a media blackout on the whole thing.
    I have basically the same ancestral background. But having learned what ingrates these fuckers are, I say they're on their own. The whole arrogant lot of em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charliebravo View Post
    Bullshit. You simply traded your empire for services. Now it's left to the U.S. taxpayer to subsidize your defense.
    What? We pay for our own armed forces and commit billions to projects like the JSF etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charliebravo View Post
    You Limeys will sit on your side of the pond mocking us for our guns and religion, yet come slithering back every time one of your neighbors casts a covetous eye to their west. Please don't lecture us on our failure to provide adequate "benefits" to our citizens. Once we're done subsidzing the defense of Europe, there's not much money left.
    The Cold War is over. Besides we are allies and have committed thousands of troops and hundreds of lives in A-stan... GWB mobilised you military for a democratic neo-conservative crusade. That was his choice to make.

    And don't you dare complain about your taxes to us. You don't know what the word "tax" means...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefferson View Post
    I have basically the same ancestral background. But having learned what ingrates these fuckers are, I say they're on their own. The whole arrogant lot of em.
    Jefferson... I'm 100% Irish beyond 4 generations, 25% English, 25% Irish, 25% Scottish beyond 2 generations and 50% Scottish 50% English.

    Arrogance... don't complain about arrogance. The British are the most apathetic and whiny country on the planet. I've been to your country twice and every time I have been treated to the wonderful American hospitality. If there is one thing you do not lack it is arrogance and pride.

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