Well they cut unemployment benefits last night.

[Joey]

It's the world of people who have never owned or run a business and have never felt that kind of tax placed around them and what it does to your work drive. It's the world of class warfare and pussies. The world of "I don't want to try my hardest for my own life, but I will try my hardest to bring everyone down to my level".
The world of, "I don't want to work hard, and I'm going to take away every reason any one else has to work hard and create more jobs for everyone to get paid for".
It's not right to tax any one at any kind of rate just so we can have social programs that feed and house the lazy that refuse to work, or those who choose to be "Disabled".

Was 1950s America really so bad? You're not being very patriotic.

[Integratedj]

In a normal, civilized nation where the rich pay their fair share.

What's strange about the current US tax model is you've low taxes for the rich, encouraging high pay to rocket (Wall Street bankers etc) but also very high corporation tax - higher than much of Europe - which encourages your corporations to export jobs. So the US working and middle class are getting f*cked over not once but twice.

Then, to cap it all, you've got Tea Party loons running about, arguing for still lower taxes. Crazy and, as I say, completely at odds with what the US did historically for much of the 20th century. Just check those stats.

They represent, in part, what made America great from 1950 to 1980. Then you allowed Reagan to mess it up (and run a huge budget deficit from which you've never recovered) so money could be stuffed in his rich friends' pockets. Barking mad. And nice working men on this thread fight over nickels and dimes....

I may be a "Tea party Loon", but at least I am a free man fighting for what's right instead of a Euro Faggot begging for more Government in my life.

[Integratedj]

Was 1950s America really so bad? You're not being very patriotic.

yeah, You know all about patriotism and freedom...

[Ruskiegunlover]

fuck you joey. Do YOU want to give 90% of what YOU make, you communist fuck? The left, and all communists in general, are naive to the point of stupidity on this......you'll respond with 'I'm not rich'.......well guess what you dumb piece of shit, ALL OF US, EVEN THE ONES SEARCHING FOR JOBS ARE RICH TO SOMEONE. The guy living in cardboard on the street will yell out how the guy living in his fucking car on the street is rich, and so on, and so on.......you too are fucking rich, so why don't you start paying 90% of your income? Oh, ha, I forget: you are living in the Union of Ebglish Socialist Republics.....you already pay close to 90% so women can almost die in er rooms having misscarraiges, waiting hours for needed emergency care from your 'superior' healthcare system.

You REALLY say its fair for the rich to pay 90% taxes, in reality pay a MUCH higher percentage of the yearly tax income to our government, while you MIGHT get off your ass to pay 10% Thats FAIR to you? REALLY? I guess its FAIR like a good old fashioned socialist election is.......

One of technologies greatests curses is it allows worthless pieces of shit like you to survive childbirth. I believe the world and America are headed towards some historical times, and I hope that if shtf, I at least get to shoot at people like you before I die.

[Joey]

Integratedj, if you want to be ass-f*cked by the rich, that's a matter for you. But you're out of step economically with the bulk of US 20th century history.

You're like a domestic servant to the wealthy, a butler wringing his hands, saying to his boss:

"Oh please kick my ass some more. But let me change my pants first in case your foot gets dirty!

You're a laughable specimen. Unpatriotic, historically illiterate, grovelling to the rich. At least much of Europe is taking to the streets. 50,000 Irish marched against the corrupt bankers last week, the equivalent of 4 million Americans arriving on Capitol Hill.

And what are you doing? Grovelling to the rich.

[abpt1]

Then move.

Hey fuck tard how about you buy both my houses at what there appraised value is and give me your address and i buy the house across the street and Ill bring my pitbulls and park my old beat up pick on my front lawn drink beer and give you a hard time all day long :fy:

I have a job I work for the state lol !

[Ruskiegunlover]

In nature, the weak of a litter die. In england, they control the rest of the litter, and get to mooch off of and steal from the rest of the litter.

When this dumbfuck, pussy agree's to work for nothing and keep nothing of what he earns, I'll respect him. But like every dumbass socialist I have ever met, its not HIM that should be doing this, its everyone else.........

[Joey]

fuck you joey. Do YOU want to give 90% of what YOU make, you communist fuck? The left, and all communists in general, are naive to the point of stupidity on this......you'll respond with 'I'm not rich'.......well guess what you dumb piece of shit, ALL OF US, EVEN THE ONES SEARCHING FOR JOBS ARE RICH TO SOMEONE. The guy living in cardboard on the street will yell out how the guy living in his fucking car on the street is rich, and so on, and so on.......you too are fucking rich, so why don't you start paying 90% of your income? Oh, ha, I forget: you are living in the Union of Ebglish Socialist Republics.....you already pay close to 90% so women can almost die in er rooms having misscarraiges, waiting hours for needed emergency care from your 'superior' healthcare system.

You REALLY say its fair for the rich to pay 90% taxes, in reality pay a MUCH higher percentage of the yearly tax income to our government, while you MIGHT get off your ass to pay 10% Thats FAIR to you? REALLY? I guess its FAIR like a good old fashioned socialist election is.......

One of technologies greatests curses is it allows worthless pieces of shit like you to survive childbirth. I believe the world and America are headed towards some historical times, and I hope that if shtf, I at least get to shoot at people like you before I die.

Ha! Einstein joins the debate. Another domestic servant defending his master, this one with added death threats. Ruskiegunlover: want to try that again and attempt an argument this time? Would that work for you?

[Integratedj]

Integratedj, if you want to be ass-f*cked by the rich, that's a matter for you. But you're out of step economically with the bulk of US 20th century history.

You're like a domestic servant to the wealthy, a butler wringing his hands, saying to his boss:

"Oh please kick my ass some more. But let me change my pants first in case your foot gets dirty!

You're a laughable specimen. Unpatriotic, historically illiterate, grovelling to the rich. At least much of Europe is taking to the streets. 50,000 Irish marched against the corrupt bankers last week, the equivalent of 4 million Americans arriving on Capitol Hill.

And what are you doing? Grovelling to the rich.

Yeah, I'm unpatriotic because I refuse to steal from my fellow Americans that which they have earned, unlike the Welfare state that you live in where everyone is stealing from everyone else. I grovel to no one. I bust my ass and make my living the way it was intended. With my sweat and my pride. Never once have I begged, never once have I been paid out of Gov funds. It's called self reliance. That is the American way. To many have forgotten that and are now also on the tit, but I have not. I will take from No one that which is not mine, and that I did not earn. No one forces me to do what I do, no one makes me do anything I choose not to. There is no Slavery or groveling in my life.

Most of the Rioting I see in Europe is against their retirement age being raised, and their beloved pensions being cut. Blame the Bankers all you want, but it is your form of Government that allowed this to happen. Socialism is a fucking Fantasy, and most of Europe is still to fucking Tit drunk to realize it.

Historically Illiterate? Go back further than your socialist wet dream graph and you will see what America is supposed to be about Tax wise before a bunch of progressive socialists got hold of our tax system. We would never have a Deficit to begin with if it wasn't for the same kind of shit that runs your Government. Fucking progressive socialist pieces of shit.

[bubagun]

In a normal, civilized nation where the rich pay their fair share.

What's strange about the current US tax model is you've low taxes for the rich, encouraging high pay to rocket (Wall Street bankers etc) but also very high corporation tax - higher than much of Europe - which encourages your corporations to export jobs. So the US working and middle class are getting f*cked over not once but twice.

Then, to cap it all, you've got Tea Party loons running about, arguing for still lower taxes. Crazy and, as I say, completely at odds with what the US did historically for much of the 20th century. Just check those stats.

They represent, in part, what made America great from 1950 to 1980. Then you allowed Reagan to mess it up (and run a huge budget deficit from which you've never recovered) so money could be stuffed in his rich friends' pockets. Barking mad. And nice working men on this thread fight over nickels and dimes....

And it sounds like you supported NAFTA and the EPA and the sierra club and all the other socialist plans to eliminate any industry in America while cheering on 37 million wetbacks coming here and live off of us for free while sucking our social services dry. You act like the wealthy are some kind of enemy class enemy. THAT is of course right out of the communist manifesto. You want us to pay higher taxes? For what? To fund more socialism? You left wing socialists are to blame for every problem ass fucking Amerika today. You refuse to allow the Fed to be regulated. You refuse to allow lower cooperate taxes for industry, you insist on an EPA that drives employers out of the country, you insist on sucking every union's cock, you dimokrats have nationalized the auto industry and given 30% of GM to the fucking autoworkers....so that the workers can own the tools of production....everything you "we gotta pay more taxes" loons touch, turns to shit. People like you could never even run a fucking lemonade stand...unless you received a government subsidy. Just keep banging your fist in mommies basement...eventualy communism will win and we will all be slaves to marxism.

[bubagun]

Yeah, I'm unpatriotic because I refuse to steal from my fellow Americans that which they have earned, unlike the Welfare state that you live in where everyone is stealing from everyone else. I grovel to no one. I bust my ass and make my living the way it was intended. With my sweat and my pride. Never once have I begged, never once have I been paid out of Gov funds. It's called self reliance. That is the American way. To many have forgotten that and are now also on the tit, but I have not. I will take from No one that which is not mine, and that I did not earn. No one forces me to do what I do, no one makes me do anything I choose not to. There is no Slavery or groveling in my life.

Most of the Rioting I see in Europe is against their retirement age being raised, and their beloved pensions being cut. Blame the Bankers all you want, but it is your form of Government that allowed this to happen. Socialism is a fucking Fantasy, and most of Europe is still to fucking Tit drunk to realize it.

Historically Illiterate? Go back further than your socialist wet dream graph and you will see what America is supposed to be about Tax wise before a bunch of progressive socialists got hold of our tax system. We would never have a Deficit to begin with if it wasn't for the same kind of shit that runs your Government. Fucking progressive socialist pieces of shit.

But ....THAT....is Politicaly Incorrect. If you stand in the way of government cheese for the masses....you must be a racist.

[mrkalashnikov]

I have never taken a dime of unemployment money & never will. I would rather live under a bridge in a Frigidaire box first, but that's just me, my 2 cents.

When I left my company job after 20 years I left the whole security net that came with it...good health insurance, 401K, nice steady paycheck, some other nice perks. I had a wife and 2 young kids but I did what I thought was right at the time. Looking back 10 years later, best decision I ever made.

[bubagun]

Joey

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Ahhhh...I didn't realize until now...that you were an INGSOC'er. That explains the willingness to bend over for Stalin and to get on your knees for the islamik jihad. People like you, who are and always have been "subjects" instead of free citizens... just do not have a clue as to what life is like without some socialist bureaucrat deciding "what is best for you," when he chews your food, for you, before you can swallow it. Folks, like you, who have always been no more than sheep, first, for your aristocracy and your commissars, to "fleece" and "program for passiveness," any way they see fit... simply cannot be expected to rise above the cradle to grave socialism and understand what American freedom is.

[Blacksmith]

Way to go assholes. So now people that had jobs and lost them due to no fault of their own wont be able to support their families.

Nobody owes you a job. and nobody owes you any of that welfare money.
IMHO
You can either sit there crying about how it’s not your fault. or get off your lazy ass and find some work.

[Cypher]

Sad to see working men attack each other when they should save their anger for the politicians who wrecked the US economy.

Fixed part of your post, not wasting my time on the rest of it.

Are you really that ignorant and naive? Have you graduated high school yet?

[DeadPool]

Nobody owes you a job. and nobody owes you any of that welfare money.
IMHO
You can either sit there crying about how it’s not your fault. or get off your lazy ass and find some work.

You can save that shit for the sub human ghetto chimps you so adore. Ive worked my whole life supporting them. I say we take from the trash and give to the real unfortunate ones. Youre not much for rational dicussion anyway. So fuck off.

[Blacksmith]

You can save that shit for the sub human ghetto chimps you so adore. Ive worked my whole life supporting them. I say we take from the trash and give to the real unfortunate ones. Youre not much for rational dicussion anyway. So fuck off.

You entitlement fucks make me sick.
BTW
How’s all that Hope and change working out for you?
Tool

[DeadPool]

You entitlement fucks make me sick.
BTW
How’s all that Hope and change working out for you?
Tool

Its called insurance. Which means its payed for by businesses. It isnt an entitlement. Welfare is what your speaking of. Why dont you try to address the topic at hand? Take from the entitled ones and give to the real unfortunate, what do you have against that? Since entitlements make you sick, well you and I agree.

[Joey]

Yeah, I'm unpatriotic because I refuse to steal from my fellow Americans that which they have earned, unlike the Welfare state that you live in where everyone is stealing from everyone else. I grovel to no one. I bust my ass and make my living the way it was intended. With my sweat and my pride. Never once have I begged, never once have I been paid out of Gov funds. It's called self reliance. That is the American way. To many have forgotten that and are now also on the tit, but I have not. I will take from No one that which is not mine, and that I did not earn. No one forces me to do what I do, no one makes me do anything I choose not to. There is no Slavery or groveling in my life.

Most of the Rioting I see in Europe is against their retirement age being raised, and their beloved pensions being cut. Blame the Bankers all you want, but it is your form of Government that allowed this to happen. Socialism is a fucking Fantasy, and most of Europe is still to fucking Tit drunk to realize it.

Historically Illiterate? Go back further than your socialist wet dream graph and you will see what America is supposed to be about Tax wise before a bunch of progressive socialists got hold of our tax system. We would never have a Deficit to begin with if it wasn't for the same kind of shit that runs your Government. Fucking progressive socialist pieces of shit.

But you're not paying your way. You're living in a nation whose infrastructure was funded by the c. 90% tax rate, applied to the American rich, from roughly 1932 to Reagan's first budget in the early 1990s.

You're like a ponce living off a woman. Or a kid living at home off his parents. Or an old English aristocrat not doing any work, but living in the mansion his grandparents built, spending inherited wealth which they created, doing nothing about the leaking roof.

In other words you're a thief and a parasite: poncing off the infrastructure built up by past generations of hard-working, socially responsible, Americans, and thieving from your children, and your neighbour's children, by failing to leave America a better, richer place for them to enjoy.

What you wrote about "standing on your own two feet" is just so much hysterical bullshit: a fantasy designed to conceal your generational robbery.

How does it feel to be a pompous, duplicitous, fantasing, thief, stealing from future generations, and poncing off the achievements of better men than you? Think about it next time you drive on an interstate, built and paid for with that historic 90% tax rate.

[Blacksmith]

Its called insurance. Which means its payed for by businesses. It isnt an entitlement. Welfare is what your speaking of. Why dont you try to address the topic at hand? Take from the entitled ones and give to the real unfortunate, what do you have against that? Since entitlements make you sick, well you and I agree.

3 or 4 weeks is insurance. anything longer than that is welfare. what you are talking about is getting people that were once productive hooked on the government Tit.
As for addressing the topic at hand. I found out many years ago that Fascist can only contribute to a conversation when every person involved agrees with them. If there is any variation from their limited IQ and the brainwashing that their pea sized brains have been forced to endure. they go into a hate rant frenzy that can last for days or even weeks.