Business as usual
Continued recession, very slow recovery
Severe recession, increased unemployment but nothing worse
Deep economic depression, runaway inflation, massive riots and starvation, marshal law
TEOTWAWKI
That is good to hear, I guess you've noticed the only bad part is time will go too fast.Originally Posted by ubersoldate
Huge, you know I sort of figured they'd be little like you.
Grandson is a defensive tackle; over 200 pounds and he can press his weight. Yup, he is dainty and petite just like me..
Deep economic depression, runaway inflation, massive riots and starvation, marshal law
This gets my vote.
Rage
I guess the poll shows what would be defined as "economic uncertainty"
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If we don't change course.
The catalyst will be when food runs short. An empty belly makes for angry people.
I voted scenario # 2, but if our economy stalls/stagnates further and we have another huge round of mortgage defaults & business layoffs, that could change everything...for the worse.
Hard to say for sure.
I'm buying food and bullets all the same though.
Yep, while I hope for the best, I'm making "common sense" preps - that is, buying/storing stuff that will be good to have regardless. You might call them "conservative" preps.
The thing is, the more you look into the details of our situation, the more evident it becomes that we are standing in a tar pit and if we don't do something to get out of it, we're going to be sucked down into it...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo6GttEf-ksIn my opinion we now stand on a razors edge and it will take a true disaster to break the American system.
For example,
If the Republicans retake some seats in Congress then the system will stabilize and regrow. The rate of that regrowth will depend on the specific policies undertaken.
If on the other hand.
Say, the Caldera(Super Volcano) under Yellowstone Nat'l Park erupts suddenly then it will blow so much ash and dirt into the atmosphere that it will block out the sun over most of the Midwest and, if it's growing season, will destroy the crops in the fields.
The famine coupled with the truly epic levels of destruction on top of public panic would overwhelm the government and then it's a free for all and we're all in the shit.
But that may happen tomorrow or it may not happen for a hundred years. The same for an Asteroid or a Nuclear Terrorist attack or an Alien Invasion.
I think that the Republicans will retake a large number of seats and that this (re)growth will be more rapid than not. That's why I'm the lone optimist in your poll.
As for an unpredictable disaster? Well that's why I own so many guns.
I doesn't take much to make a volcano blow its top. Some rich people are planning on a good place to hide . LOOk up the new denver airport. If things are not all screwed up by then. I'm sure powerful men will make it sure it happens. Population control and all.
How is the party of saviors going to dig us out of our debt load?
Republicans=borrow and spend
Mother fuck the republican party.
FBHO
I try to discipline my head not to think about what might happen. I'm a terrible guesser.
I only think about what could happen. Basically there are three scenarios. Listed in descending order of hardest to prepare for; easiest-6 to 9 month period of time where one must provide all basic systems of support (energy, medicine, security, energy, etc.) due to complete socio-economic collapse, next difficult-global, thermonuclear war, most difficult-a draconian totalitarian government develops that has managed put off disaster at the expense of personal liberties (this is the real bitch)
Pragmatically, I have developed and implemented a long term plan (for a while now) to deal with all three according to most urgent need based on my ability to progress. For example, location, location, location... 10 years ago I moved to SW OR, an area that is expected to receive "some" fallout every 50 global thermonuclear wars (slightly less than 2% chance). I live more than a tank of gas away from a major city, the community is about 3K in population and can form a cohesive, self sufficient enclave, not too big, not too small. The State has no real expectation of national leadership. OR is an "open carry" state. There is no single major industry that dominates the local economy. There are a diversity of crops & ranches sufficient in production to feed ourselves. The area is rich in fish and game. And many other important considerations.
I mentioned location as an easy way to demonstrate that regardless of one's considered opinion about what might happen, thoughtful step planning can largely deal with all three scenarios.
Actually, the first 5 steps taken can prepare one rather cheaply and effectively for nearly 90% preparedness.
And don't be slow to improvise. For instance, two years ago I finally noticed that there are a basic shitload of survivalists in my area (wonder why). Additionally, there are a whole lot of Mormons too (all of them with a bunch of food and supplies). I put two & two together and approached the Mormon Bishop here asking if I could have a list of the folks that attend all over SW OR. He asked me why. I told him I wanted to sell the list to all the survivalists (who usually have more guns than they need and not near enough food and supplies). I offered him 20% of the take. My luck the guy turns out to be somewhat less than capitalistic and an absolutely humorless little man...
Burn baby burn.
[QUOTE=HDR;7130]That is good to hear, I guess you've noticed the only bad part is time will go too fast.
Huge, you know I sort of figured they'd be little like you.
Grandson is a defensive tackle; over 200 pounds and he can press his weight. Yup, he is dainty and petite just like me..[/
Yeah, we replaced teddy with another rino,hell he votes with the dems 90% of the time from what i have observed. This Nov will decide this country for the next 50 to 70 yrs and these young fools believe its all for no cost,until their 40 or older then reality sets in. 2.5 yrs of unemployment,you have to be joking,renamed welfare check after 21 wks,nuff said.
Interesting Paladin about the location.
I, like most here that are not retired, need to base our location on many factors including wether or not we can earn a viable income in the area.
I live in Texas.
The one thing about Texas is that we have a history of independence - more so than any other state really in that it is a history that is very much still alive.
If things go way south, the chance that Texas will declare itself independent once again and reform the republic goes way up. There will be so many benefits to doing so that I think it will most likey happen.
A good solid Texas Republic would be a good place to be in a SHTF world...
And when I say "Texas Republic", keep in mind that this may geographically include what is now Oklahoma, New Mexico, Louisiana.... more?
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And its interesting to note that we have a perfect bell curve with the current selection on the poll. Most people see some shit coming down - much much more so than just two years ago. So much has happened in those two years - so much negative...
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Yeah, I lived in San Antonio for three years after I ETSd and was stationed for at Ft. Head for two. My Mom's side of the family is from Texas. Daddy used to live in Plano. Have good friends there. When we were looking to relocate, we gave real consideration to Wimberly in the hill country north west of San Marcos.
Do me a favor and say hello to all of my ex-wives in the state.
"All my X's live in Texas"
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Wimberly is beautiful but hippy central.San Marcos is not so much better either.I'm more inclined to Fredricksburg or Kerrville.
Say hello to your own ex's I don't even want to talk to mine much.
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Fredericksberg, yeah. I wonder how much Lukenbach has changed since the late 60s, early 70s? Sure enough Hondo Crouch can't still be alive.
Used to go see a square headed little girl down in Panna Maria. Wasn't much of a place back then had a post office if I recall. Hard working folks. Mostly Pollocks. Good folks. Lost an upper incisor to square headed little girl's brother who put the shot for A&M one Saturday night at the waterin' hole. When the term "White Power" is used, I think of him...
Hondo is up to at least 4 lights on the main drag.I pass through on my way to Del Rio.
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I think in the next year we will have armed militia engaged in firefights with drug smugglers in AZ. The feds will seek criminal charges against them and it will get really nasty when AZ puts them into protection.
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