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Thread: To hell with the saiga...Check out this puppy!!!

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    To hell with the saiga...Check out this puppy!!!

    Not a fan of Keltec, though I've never had one, but this would be about the perfect home defense weapon.

    12 gauge, 14 rounds

    http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/pr...ec-shotgun-ksg

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    Very nice looking where can we find specs on it?
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    There have been several threads on this if you search, I think it's a neat idea based off a South African design but IMO they got to get the discussed price down before I'd be interested.

    http://www.gunsnet.net/showthread.ph...el-tec-Shotgun

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    Isn't that what they call 'Cloud Ware'? Kinda like the RFB: Hardly seen, and when you find them, you'll give an arm, a leg, a pint of blood, and your firstborn to own.
    How do you compromise with someone when their idea of compromise is to give them what THEY want?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmat View Post
    Isn't that what they call 'Cloud Ware'? Kinda like the RFB: Hardly seen, and when you find them, you'll give an arm, a leg, a pint of blood, and your firstborn to own.
    Ah nah it's not like that, it's just in development

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    Quote Originally Posted by mriddick View Post
    Ah nah it's not like that, it's just in development
    So we have to wait at least a year before it gets like that.

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    Won't fit in my backpack so it is a no go for me.
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    If it weren't for Surly having an RFB, I'd swear they were just a rumor. I'd say at the rate things are going now, I might see one of them new-fangled Kel-Tec shotties sometime around 2024. But they'll keep telling me it's coming soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKTexas View Post
    Won't fit in my backpack so it is a no go for me.
    Why do you need a 12 gauge for your back pack?

    My Draco fits in my back pack with a mag loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyPertwee View Post
    Why do you need a 12 gauge for your back pack?

    My Draco fits in my back pack with a mag loaded.
    I'm looking for a backpack gun,I sold the PLR16 I owned because it was ammo picky.Looking to replace it.If the Kel-Tec shotgun was short enough I would have looked into it.But the OL is 26" too long for my backpack.So my next option is either a Sub2k or Draco and SBR it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKTexas View Post
    I'm looking for a backpack gun,I sold the PLR16 I owned because it was ammo picky.Looking to replace it.If the Kel-Tec shotgun was short enough I would have looked into it.But the OL is 26" too long for my backpack.So my next option is either a Sub2k or Draco and SBR it.
    Well 26" is the minimum for rifles as far as I know.

    My Draco seems to be fine without a stock. I've got a single point sling, though. For people purposes I think its fine for within 100 yards. I wouldn't take it to Iraq though.

    I've thought it would be good for a deer within appropriate range. Also, I bet putting a side rail on it and using the Kobra would open the range up a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyPertwee View Post
    Well 26" is the minimum for rifles as far as I know.

    My Draco seems to be fine without a stock. I've got a single point sling, though. For people purposes I think its fine for within 100 yards. I wouldn't take it to Iraq though.

    I've thought it would be good for a deer within appropriate range. Also, I bet putting a side rail on it and using the Kobra would open the range up a little.
    My backpack is only 20" internally,I'm considering the Draco over the Sub2k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKTexas View Post
    My backpack is only 20" internally,I'm considering the Draco over the Sub2k.
    I would.

    I hesitated on a draco until I got a good deal on it, but after I got it I realized that not having the stock wasn't the big drawback I thought it was. The gun feels like a submachine gun no matter what, but making shots with the sights isn't bad, and with the muzzle brake I have on it there's little noticeable recoil. It's solid because its an AK and you know the round has plenty of power, unless your hunting something serious. Its really a small package to have the firepower of 30 7.62x39, and the weight difference between it and my similar folding stock SAR-1 is enough to counter the drawbacks of not having a stock.

    If I were going to join the SWAT team I would obviously choose a different weapon, but I think it does fine for a light and handy package for civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmat View Post
    Isn't that what they call 'Cloud Ware'? Kinda like the RFB: Hardly seen, and when you find them, you'll give an arm, a leg, a pint of blood, and your firstborn to own.
    I am as of yet to even see an RFB in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmat View Post
    If it weren't for Surly having an RFB, I'd swear they were just a rumor. I'd say at the rate things are going now, I might see one of them new-fangled Kel-Tec shotties sometime around 2024. But they'll keep telling me it's coming soon!
    LOL reminds me of the Masada/ACR.
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    This is the fifth thread on this keltec shotgun on gunsnet.










    And its AWESOME.
    I want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKTexas View Post
    My backpack is only 20" internally,I'm considering the Draco over the Sub2k.
    You know, I just checked my pack, and the best I could conceal in it is probably 24". I've never gave much thought to the idea but yeah, this shotgun wouldn't fit. But I'm sure a guy could find one it would fit in.
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    it looks ok ! but i think ill keep my saiga .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefferson View Post
    You know, I just checked my pack, and the best I could conceal in it is probably 24". I've never gave much thought to the idea but yeah, this shotgun wouldn't fit. But I'm sure a guy could find one it would fit in.
    I'm sure there are backpacks out there that would fit these but I do not want that backpack.Now I need to sell off a couple of guns to get me a couple of Dracos.
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    If they are on the market at the end of the year.....IT WILL BE MINE!

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