I don't understand why Obama continues to support a nation as totalitarian as Israel. Why is he blind to all the international law and international concensus that the "settlement" of Palestinian land is strictly illegal.
Israel is allowed to play Nazi (moving Palestinians into camps, stealing their homes, settling land gained in an illegal war) and the US lets it happen. You didn't treat aparteid South Africa like you treat Israel, so what is Israel's special exception?
Let's first take a look at our last two presidents.
Bush would have vetoed The UN resolution because he is a fundamentalist, progressive, religious nut job.
Barry Obama vetoed the UN resolution because he has no guts. Though Barry knew better he was too terrified by Israel's lobby - the left wing, progressive AIPAC - to abstain from the vote and instead chose to vote against 130 countries including all other members of the Security Council.
Let's have a quick look:
The resolution, sponsored by at least 130 countries, declared Israeli settlements in Palestinian territories were illegal and a "major obstacle to the achievement of a just, lasting and comprehensive peace".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12512732
The degree of support, on the other hand, was overwhelming: some 130 countries co-sponsored the resolution, and all the other members of the Security Council voted for it.
The result was strong endorsement of the Palestinian position on Israeli settlements - that they are illegal, and an obstacle to peace - which isolated Israel. It also isolated the United States
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The degree of support, on the other hand, was overwhelming: some 130 countries co-sponsored the resolution, and all the other members of the Security Council voted for it.
The result was strong endorsement of the Palestinian position on Israeli settlements - that they are illegal, and an obstacle to peace - which isolated Israel. It also isolated the United States.
Now here is the real game afoot.
Israel wants the US to continue to have have a pro Israel Middle East policy ONLY and to prevent the US from ever having a pro US Middle East policy.
(Notice that even while protesters still rage in Middle East countries who are run by US backed dictators still the US refuses to vote in any country's best interest save Israel.)
Europe. Still gloating about dumping Israel's care and feeding on the US in 1967. Later the EU will recognize a separate Palestenian state based on the 1967 borders. Europe will continue to make billions upon billions from the Middle East.
Here is what's really happening that matters:
The Palestenians will get their state. The US will get fucked.In recent weeks the South American nation and its neighbours, Bolivia, Argentina and Ecuador, have all officially recognised Palestine as an independent state within 1967 borders - that is to say the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza.
Uruguay says it will do the same in 2011 and Palestinian officials suggest at least another two countries are lined up to follow suit..............
Wart
Darn, they didn't win another UN condemnation, must be getting real close to 100 of those by now...I suppose sooner or later someone will actually think they are worth the paper they are printed on.
Waste of time.
I do wonder where the condemnations are of Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc.
"The major obstacle to peace"...yeah right, wouldn't be rockets going into Israel. Wouldn't be the Palestinians actually having no control over the actions of their people in "their" territory. No, it's the little Jewish cities and towns that the Palestinians actually go to in order to find jobs that are screwing it up.
Somehow people have the impression that these are machine gun nests surrounded by "the wire" with jews shooting rounds off at Muzzies for kicks. No, these are mainly pretty much suburbs, with parks, universities, etc.
A lot of them were Jewish settlements before the wars even started.
It's amazing how quickly much of the world has been able to style Israel as the Fourth Reich.Originally Posted by Kadmos
If we refuse to rule ourselves with reason, then we shall be ruled by our passions.
He, Who Will Not Reason, Is a Bigot; He, Who Cannot, Is a Fool; and He, Who Dares Not, Is a Slave. -Sir William Drummond
There are some things I will not abide within my sight!
Yep. The really amazing part to me is people go on and on about refugee camps still being in Israel, when Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria all still have refugee camps filled with "Palestinians" who are essentially their own people!
How does that even happen? One day you are a Syrian living in Syria, then a war happens and suddenly you are now a "Palestinian", still living in Syria, but forced to stay in a refugee camp for the rest of your life???
In the meantime you have cousins who lived what is really just a few miles west who were Syrians who now live in "occupied territory" but aren't allowed back in Syria?
A few miles further west you have other cousins who were Syrian, and were fully "behind enemy lines" who are now full Israeli citizens, who Syria has begged to come back to Syria as full citizens...who won't leave Israel because they like living there and actually have decent lives, a vote in their government, civil rights, etc.
Well maybe some people are pro jew?I don't understand why Obama continues to support a nation as totalitarian as Israel
0bama is in campaign mode now so he will avoid offending any group until he is re-elected or is a lame duck. Anything 0bama does between now and election day will be based on keeping his core voting groups smiling.
It is a replay of what he did the last time.
Speaking of balls, the only question is will he have the balls to use 'Hope and Change" again.
Pro radical Islamic killers.. If and when they stop killing radical Islamic fundamentalists they lose a lot.
Plus as they fit in the region; their Intel is better than ours since Kerry and the Craps de-clawed the CIA in the 1990s.
"much of the world" certainly does not include the US where Israel is cast as the Second Coming* by the religious, fundamentalist nut jobs here.
Wart
*Excepting the Israelis and Jews of course who view the right wing fundamentalist nut jobs here in the US as the First Coming so far as alibing for anything Israel has done or might do.
Those shitbirds hannity, huckaboy and beck got to be in the Israeli Ring of Honor. (Never mind the Israelis laugh their ass off at those fools in private.)
Last edited by Warthogg; 02-20-2011 at 10:36 AM.
What a load of toot! It's Israel's stupid notion that God gave it Judea. The Old Testament was a morale-story to shut up the children on a donkey ride across the Roman Empire.
BS, most of the expansion is past the 1967 borders. Most of the rocket attacks are within the Palestinian '67 borders. They are defending their territory.
Well according to "an eye for an eye" they are morally justified to commit another holocaust. The Jews coming out of Belsen and Birkenau were psychopaths. Most of their sanity had been destroyed by the Nazis. Some of them only survived by stealing the shoes from people's feet and the food from people's plates.
Now the Jews will trample upon anyone who gets in their way. First, it was the British, then the Arabs.
At what cost? Thousands of Palestinians were rounded up into camps in '48 and had their home stolen by Jews. That isn't justice. That is almost holocaust, after '45 the Jews found their homes being occupied by Aryans. How is there any justice repeating that atrocity on the Arabs in '48?
Palestinians are demonised and dehumanised by Israel. Why would they even consider becoming Israeli citizens?
hat 'illegal' war are you talking about? And whats 'legal'? Would the 'illegal' war that ISRAEL launched be the 1967 war, which was a blatent case of self-defense by israel. Or the 1956 sinai campaign (again, a blatent case of defensive warfare).....or, ha, the 1973 yom kippur war (another blatent case of self defense)......Or, even, the 1948 war for independence........a case where israel accepted the boundaries of the new state, yet the pig's refused to......and attacked israel. And israel committed the syph sin of defending themselves against the entire middle east.
Syph, aren't you one of those national-socialist, anti-simitic limey fucks who so recently decided to join here? Or am I confusing you with another one.......?
"What sick, barbaric bastards.
It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?
Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "
So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....
So Pearl Harbour was self-defence? Okay.
Legal war involves a declaration not a pre-emptive strike on Egyptian Airfields. You think you Yanks would know all about surprise attacks considering you were the victim of one of the biggest. Jeez...
Defence requires a valid reason to occupy a territory. The Jews have no claim other than an elaborate story written on a scroll with little concrete evidence. If the Jews wanted a country after '45 they had about as much legitimacy to take over Madagascar rather than Palestine. Let them have their pre-1939 settlements (Tel Aviv etc.) but they have no right to govern as a majority and expand aggressively into land they had no right to take.
Let's see: Nazi and Anti-semite: I'm neither. I am anti-zionist because zionism has no legitimate foundation. It is based off superstition and hearsay dating back two thousand years. Once there was a Israeli people but they were so tiny that they were eradicated by empire after empire.
Anyway, no group can have a claim to a homeland. As all Americans know, only the individual has rights and no group can use its cumulative rights to overturn the rights of others.
I'll tell you a story: There is a city in the west bank called Hebron and do you know what young Jewish boys are encouraged to do? They are encouraged to throw stones at muslims. Muslim girls have to return to their homes in convoy from school so they are not separated and harmed. But do you know what is really disgusting? Every street corner has an IDF soldier guarding it... and they do nothing.
There is a lot of injustice, but don't spread lies that the Israelis are acting in defence... you make them sound like victims.
Limey: Accepted.
Fuck: Most probably.
again, only a limey FUCK national socialist history-re-writer would say they were wrong in 67. Egypt OPENLY declares war, shuts down the suez, starts massing troops in the sinai, is OPENLY pulling troops out of yemen and sending them straight to the sinai, and preparing for war......and you blame the israelis? Again, ant-semite bastard. Thats as if someone has already pulled a gun on you, is in fact holding you at gun point, and you get the best of them, pull your gun and fire......and YOU are to blame. They have been the victims in the middle east, and in fact treat the NORMAL palistineans with more respect then the towels do.
Now, isn't there a great documentary on Hitler you could be watching? Or maybe have to shine your jackboots? Or go mow more lawns to save up for your next swastica tat?
I have seen and met too many shitheads like you, who wish history away, want to write your own version of it. Anything to blame those damned, dirty JOOOOOOOOOOO'S!
"What sick, barbaric bastards.
It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?
Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "
So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....
Did I miss the Klan meeting again? LOL!!!!!
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I'd guess...
Could I point out the the Old Testiment is set and was written mostly 2,000+ years before the Romans started their expansion?
Last edited by El Laton Caliente; 02-21-2011 at 11:30 AM.
LOL...
Palestine used to be a British colony.
The British promised to give the colony to the Jews for helping to get the U.S. to fight in WWI and help the British.
The British didn’t own the land, but gave it to the Jews anyways (who didn't own it either), and the Jews said "Hey." "We are our own country now mother f*ckers."
"Tough shit if ya don't like it." "We have no legal claim to this place, but we're keeping it anyways."
Victims my ass...
Ha, another history-re-writer joins the fray!........
Yeah, from the mid 19th century on, those dirty JOOOOOOO'S started raising money around the world to legally BUY land from arabs in palistine. This continued right up to WWI, and after. Very little land was fucking GIVEN to them by the UN (NOT THE BRITISH-AMAZED AT THE KNOWLEDGE LEVEL OF THE 'EXPERTS').........So lets get this straight. The country is founded in 1948, after 70-80 years of legal land purchasing by jews. The UN partitions the country, gives the israelis a small portion of additional land, and asks both sides to get along. Those damned dirty sub-human JOOOOOO'S begged for peace, immediatly agreed to the partition, and were attacked by the ENTIRE middle east.
And lets not forget, israel WAS given to the jews, it WAS their homeland 2,000 years ago until they were run out by palistineans and romans.
And they have never been given peace. They begged for it again after the 67 war, immediatly said land for peace and recognition. The towels said the three NO'S...(look that up for me, would you please, EXPERTS)......Instead, all they got was more terrorism, bloodshead, murder of women and children.
Don't you guys have a book burning party somewhere? Oh, ha, incidentaly, the side YOU are choosing also sided with the nazi's in WWII......nice, uh, family tree you got there guys.
"What sick, barbaric bastards.
It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?
Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "
So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....
You do realize that Britian promised the land not only to the Jews, but to the Palestinian Arabs, and Syria too over the years.
I personally blame the UK for the entire fucking mess in the first place.
If the entire middle east all agree that the country is illegal...then what does that tell you?
at the end of WW2 part of the thrid reich should have been partitioned and called Jewmany
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