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    147 gr 9mm

    Are all 147gr 9mm (9x19) loads considered subsonic?

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    I would expect them all to be yes. Even at +P they shouldn't be anywhere near 1100.
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    Out of a pistol length barrel, they should stay subsonic.

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    Yes by and large they would be even in an Uzi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.S.O.K. View Post
    I would expect them all to be yes. Even at +P they shouldn't be anywhere near 1100.
    1129.3...3 at 70F and at sea level.

    770 mph X 5280 feet per mile = 4,065,600 ft. per hour. Divided by 60 = 767760 feet per minute, divided by 60 = 1129.3333 feet per second.

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    The exception. It must be loaded extremely hot!

    http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...t_detail&p=120

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunreference1 View Post
    The exception. It must be loaded extremely hot!

    http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...t_detail&p=120

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    Math just got pimp slapped by reality..... (nah my load isn't that stuff)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunreference1 View Post
    The exception. It must be loaded extremely hot!

    http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...t_detail&p=120

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    Huh- I bet that would hit more than 1300 FPS out of my sub 2000. Nice.

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    My ammo gives me 1020 fps out of a Browning but it's the most accurate of all the 9 MM. My 110 and 124 stuff is practice ammo and the 147 is for serious, velocity be damned. Getting a hit counts for more than the little bullet going real fast in my dinosaur philosophy. Must be why I am a 1911 45 caliber ACP fan. You take the Ferrari, I'll take the Big Mack truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDR View Post
    1129.3...3 at 70F and at sea level.

    770 mph X 5280 feet per mile = 4,065,600 ft. per hour. Divided by 60 = 767760 feet per minute, divided by 60 = 1129.3333 feet per second.
    Gotta figure varience - 30 fps would be normal in many loads. I just say 1100 fps to stay "good".
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    FWIW, I could never get my Trident 9 suppressor to cycle my G17 until I tried some ammo from "Alabama Ammo" and the specific 147gr is called "Special K".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDR View Post
    1129.3...3 at 70F and at sea level.

    770 mph X 5280 feet per mile = 4,065,600 ft. per hour. Divided by 60 = 767760 feet per minute, divided by 60 = 1129.3333 feet per second.
    Is 770mph a constant or does it vary with altitude/ barometric pressure/ temp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by old Grump View Post
    My ammo gives me 1020 fps out of a Browning but it's the most accurate of all the 9 MM. My 110 and 124 stuff is practice ammo and the 147 is for serious, velocity be damned. Getting a hit counts for more than the little bullet going real fast in my dinosaur philosophy. Must be why I am a 1911 45 caliber ACP fan. You take the Ferrari, I'll take the Big Mack truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiredofit View Post
    Is 770mph a constant or does it vary with altitude/ barometric pressure/ temp?
    Everything varies with altitude, barometric pressure and temp.
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    Sounds like a job for MythBusters!!!
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    How about I wait till it gets alittle warmer and I'll just get out the chrono...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mriddick View Post
    How about I wait till it gets alittle warmer and I'll just get out the chrono...
    But do you have a hot assistant like Carrie from Mythbusters?

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    Hot nerd assistants aside, mythbusters kinda sucks. They don't seem very scientific.

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    I roll my own for use with the suppressor and believe it's under 1000fps.

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    I have a hard time with 147gr bullets going supersonic, but I am shooting at anywhere between 4500 feet and 10,000 feet above sea level. The problem is even worse in the summer when it is HOT.

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