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    I bought my first Glock because of a faulty safety spring on a 1911. I went to shoot a raccoon that was killing chickens and the damn thing didn't fire. That would have been my life in a self defense situation. It took me a long time to track down the problem. The previous owner styled himself a gunsmith and had bent the spring that operated the slide catch/thumb safety. I was young and stupid and had been brainwashed that the mighty 1911 never failed. The stupid part was not disassembling the weapon completely and examining the springs.

    I also had a negligent discharge with it because of my own poor understanding of the half-cock/grip safety relationship. Fortunately no one was harmed. I replaced the faulty spring and sold the pistol to a 1911 enthusiast.

    My first Glock was a 21 and I find the recoil more pleasant than in the 1911 (mine was a Combat Commander) . I have others in .40 and 9mm. I find the recoil of the .40 much more sharp than the .45. The 9mm is by far easier to fire accurately in rapid fire. I had the 21's grip Robarized, that is reduced and textured. All of them feel good in my hand.

    As far as Browning's masterpiece, I have a litter of Tokarevs that are merely pirated copies. Without the grip safety conundrum I have had no issues with the half-cock but I have switched to Israeli style carry on the advice of a firearms instructor and in light of the fact I do not top off my magazines and have gone over to Glocks as my carry weapon.

    My negligent discharge was a Godsend for my safe handling of weapons. I keep my finger away from the trigger like an Ancient Israelite kept his hands off the Ark and for the same reason. I know I am a much safer gun owner now for my deliverance from ignorance and carelessness.

    At the end of the day, the Glock feels right to me, has no safeties to be engaged at the critical moment and has a wonderful resistance to corrosion (a paramount consideration as I'm a sweaty fat bastard that lives in a hot and humid locale).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    Here's the deal. Regardless of what myself or others think if you don't feel comfortable with the Glock, get something you do feel comfortable with. The whole idea is to get the firearm that best suits YOUR needs, learn it's proper operation and become as proficient in it's use as you are able.
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    The safety on a Glock....

    is between your ears....................................same with most other pistols too.......................If you rely on a mechanical device to ensure a safe gun, you are going to shoot someone or yourself........chris3

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    you could always carry israeli

    full mag, mag in piece, empty chamber
    That is what I do, and will continue to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    Here's the deal. Regardless of what myself or others think if you don't feel comfortable with the Glock, get something you do feel comfortable with. The whole idea is to get the firearm that best suits YOUR needs, learn it's proper operation and become as proficient in it's use as you are able.
    Thanks. I had no issues until I saw that video. I understand how the safety functions on the Glock, if I didn't, I think I would be a lot more concerned. As I think about that video, I have to wonder if that guy had done something with the trigger to lessen the required trigger pull. And as mentioned, if I follow safety rules I will be alright. I am very careful with the weapons I have, so I will just make sure I continue to do that.
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    This kid I know uses this procedure for safety with his Glocks. When he is going to carry Israeli style he dry fires before inserting the magazine so that he has a visual and tactile reference that his chamber is empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    The occasional gun handler is vulnerable to forgetting how to operate little things like a manual safety when the chips are down.
    This.
    It’s not just the occasional shooter. even those of us that practice can still fumble a safety when seconds count.
    If and when you do need that weapon, you will more than likely only have enough time to pull the trigger.
    I prefer a DA with a decocking safety myself. I carry one in the chamber, hammer down and safety off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksmith View Post
    . I carry one in the chamber, hammer down and safety off.
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampdragon View Post
    Me too.
    Beretta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksmith View Post
    Beretta?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    What do you guys think?
    My personal preference is iron and wood. Plastic belongs in Tupperware.

    A nice aluminum and steel Sig or Beretta or Colt or Springer, etc...

    "Polymer"...

    Any Glunk?

    Yeah I said "Glunk". It's a combination of "Glock" and "Junk".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ubersoldate View Post
    If you feel that the glock is too dangerous to use as a carry firearm, then I would suggest not owning a gun at all.
    I'm afraid of a cocked and chambered weapon. If I carry my 1911, it's hammer down, safety off, chamber empty. I have to rack it to make it work. Same with my Beretta M9 (which I rarely carry).

    The only pistol I'm not afraid to carry chambered is my AMT .45 backup, because it's DAO, has a 500 pound trigger pull and no way can it possibly fire without a VERY DELIBERATE pull of the trigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampdragon View Post
    Honestly though, I don't think the Glock itself was the problem either.
    I think the DEA guy was just stupid.
    He checked the chamber by pulling the slide back and looking in. Problem was, he didn't remove the mag first.

    The weapon WAS safe until he checked it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    you could always carry israeli

    full mag, mag in piece, empty chamber
    That's how I carry. That's "Israeli"? OMG....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    My personal preference is iron and wood. Plastic belongs in Tupperware.

    A nice aluminum and steel Sig or Beretta or Colt or Springer, etc...

    "Polymer"...

    Any Glunk?

    Yeah I said "Glunk". It's a combination of "Glock" and "Junk".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    That's how I carry. That's "Israeli"? OMG....
    LOL.......

    Israeli style carry was never meant to be a stand alone pistol carry style.
    It was just considered a safe way to carry a sidearm when you already had a primary weapon.
    It's downside is that it takes two hands to deploy the weapon, and I that's why I don't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    My personal preference is iron and wood. Plastic belongs in Tupperware.

    A nice aluminum and steel Sig or Beretta or Colt or Springer, etc...

    "Polymer"...

    Any Glunk?

    Yeah I said "Glunk". It's a combination of "Glock" and "Junk".
    When you won't use it regardless does it really matter (you may never live some of your threads down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampdragon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksmith View Post
    Not everyone can be perfect.
    lol....

    All politics aside, I really like the guns.

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