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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    States violate the Second Amendment... people obey. The federal government violates the Second Amendment... people obey.

    Asshole Clinton's AWB was obeyed by everyone. The NFA, GCA and FOPA are obeyed by everyone.

    Everyone posts worried questions about 922(r)... "Oh dear Oh my! Is my rifle compliant?"

    People throw out perfectly good parts and spend money to replace perfectly good parts with identical parts so that they can be "compliant".

    Our EMPLOYEES... the federal government, have the nerve and the gall to tell US what we can and cannot do... and we obey.

    Private sellers, who have NO legal obligation to obey out of state laws, take it upon themselves to not sell certain items to certain states... because they "Obey".

    WE want a gun and we PAY for it... and submit to a "criminal background check" to do so and/or endure stupid "waiting periods" while the criminals simply steal a gun.

    Cost to them: $0. NICS? Not for them. Waiting period? ROFLMAO! Nope, only us stupid GOOD GUYS obey.

    "Send a message loud and clear"? We already have.

    The message is "Why play games? Just go ahead and repeal the Second Amendment. Us gutless gun owners will obey".
    The message is "Why play games? Just go ahead and repeal the Second Amendment. Us gutless gun owners will obey"
    In very rough numbers about 900,000 will not obey. (More will obey but support those who do not.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat-Hook View Post
    THIS, is how the NRA should be speaking and acting 24/7. Just like Gun Owners of America---no compromise.

    This Administration is going to try the exact same bully, harass, threaten and high pressure techniques as the Clinton Admin. did. primarily because this Admin. is packed with former Clinton Admin re-treads.

    This is how we got Smith $ Wesson to capitulate. This is how we got about 50% of all FFLs wiped out during the Clinton regime. Importation bans, ect,ect,ect. Now we are looking at Part II.

    This time the NRA along with all firearms organizations and the entire 80 million strong gun owning community needs to close ranks and not give an inch to these gangsters. Send a message loud and clear------"not this time".

    Im just hoping that in the days to come, the NRA stands by their letter to this Administration. That when our remaining FFLs, our gun companies and all our individual 2nd Amendment civil rights come under attack, that the NRA negotiates some sort our "compromise" with these villains and in the end their letter turns out to be nothing but ---"lip service".

    so for now NRA,....I applaud you. Well done
    The GOA may be "no compromise" but what have they actually accomplished? If you noticed Obama didn't request a meeting with the GOA. IMO, "No Compromise" only works if you actually accomplish something, otherwise it might just as well be a slogan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    The GOA may be "no compromise" but what have they actually accomplished?
    Mainly I see GOA attacking the NRA.

    IMHO the best out there is Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership - the JPFO. Excellent printed materials. With a membership of only 4,000 they cannot afford to do much more.


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    0bama wants to meet the nra since the nra would fold and goa wont

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    0bama wants to meet the nra since the nra would fold and goa wont
    You're trying to be funny right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    You're trying to be funny right?
    No, just ignorant as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    You're trying to be funny right?
    not in the slightest

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    not in the slightest
    That's too bad.
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    I think the NRA should sit down and talk, they can always walk away calling it "unresolvable interpertations of the 2nd amendment" and who knows they might actually gain something.

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    Chris Cox: NRA Calls Out NY Times

    Sunday, 20 Mar 2011 08:36 PM
    By Chris W. Cox

    In a recent editorial, The New York Times called the National Rifle Association’s refusal to meet with President Barack Obama on gun control shameful, and said the decision “shows disdain for the well-being and safety of the public.”

    The Times has never been shy about its contempt for gun owners and Second Amendment freedom; however, the Times owes an apology to New Yorkers for refusing to promote a common-sense program that has been very successful in preventing violent crime.

    To read the rest of the story click the link below.

    http://www.newsmax.com/US/nra-second...3/20/id/390122

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    Quote Originally Posted by samiam View Post
    I think the NRA should sit down and talk, they can always walk away calling it "unresolvable interpertations of the 2nd amendment" and who knows they might actually gain something.
    Are you serious? WHAT could they possibly gain from a guy who's spent his entire political life wiping his ass with the Constitution and in particular the 2nd amendment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    NRA grows a spine..... Reply to Obama's invite to work over the 2nd
    +1 Well said!!

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    if they "talk" with him it lends his position legitimacy, but perhaps if they stuck merely to asking him about defending the constitution it will shed light upon a more important subject never touched upon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    shame they didnt touch upon the oath, you know, the one about defending the constitution?
    The politicians do not take an oath. They merely read the words. Their "oath" may as well be written in Martian for all it matters to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warthogg View Post
    In very rough numbers about 900,000 will not obey. (More will obey but support those who do not.)
    Wart
    900K out of 300 million US citizens is about 1/3 of one percent. Helluva fighting force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    900K out of 300 million US citizens is about 1/3 of one percent. Helluva fighting force.
    Yup.....pretty good too I think. Consider:

    1) Familiar with AO
    2) More than adequately armed for guerilla warfare
    3) Many former military
    4) Fighting units will be small.....very small. Ten will be large though there will be some temporry alliances to form larger units for specific ops.

    Deomographics will be interesting. After the very early days those actually fighting will be the young.....maybe 12-13 up to 21-23. Then those 45-50 and older. I don't know of any .gov who has ever had to face, much less subdue, such a force.

    The horror and cost of such conflict is beyond my capacity to visualize. The nation will be greatly crippled but our nuclear deterrent will remain intact and prevent any sizable outside force from entering the fight. Once started I don't know how it will be stopped. There will be no central leader and no transmitters will long survive if there was someone who wanted to communicate.

    Duration can well be be 10 years.....at least.

    The United States of America will come out re-set and good for maybe another 200 years.


    Wart

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