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    Gunmen kill 17 at party in Mexico

    Human life is way too cheap to the Mexican drug cartels.
    Officials say gunmen kill 17 at party in Mexico


    17 gunned down in Mexico fiesta slaughter AFP/File – A Mexican Federal Policeman keeps watch during the presentation to the press of alleged drug traffickers …
    By OSCAR VILLALBA, Associated Press Writer Oscar Villalba, Associated Press Writer – Sun Jul 18, 2:30 pm ET

    PIEDRAS NEGRAS, Mexico – Gunmen stormed a party in northern Mexico on Sunday and massacred 17 people, authorities said.

    The gunmen arrived at the party in Torreon in several cars and opened fire without saying a word, the Coahuila state Attorney General's Office said in statement. At least 18 people were wounded.

    Several of the victims were young and some were women, but their identities and ages had not yet been determined.

    Investigators had no suspects or information on a possible motive.

    Police found more than 120 bullet casings at the scene, most of them from .223 caliber weapons.

    Coahuila is among several northern states that has seen a spike in drug-related violence that authorities attribute to a fight between the Gulf cartel and its former enforcers, known as the Zetas.

    In May, gunmen killed eight people at a bar in Torreon. Later that month, a television station and the offices of a local newspaper came under fire. A pregnant woman was wounded in the attack on the offices of Noticias de El Sol de la Laguna.

    Across northern Mexico, there have been increasing reports of mass shootings at parties, bars and rehab clinics.

    In the worst such massacre this year, gunmen raided a drug rehab center in the northern city of Chihuahua and killed 19 people. In January, gunmen barged into a private party in the border city of Ciudad Juarez and killed 15, many of them high school or university students. Relatives say it was a case of mistaken identity, while state officials claim someone at the party was targeted, although they have not said who it was.

    The massacre in Torreon came three days after the first successful car bombing by drug cartels introduced a new threat in Mexico's raging drug war.

    Drug gang members detonated the bomb after luring federal police and paramedics to the scene in Ciudad Juarez by shooting a bound man dressed in police uniform and calling in a false report of a wounded officer. Three people were killed, including a federal officer and a private doctor who had rushed to the scene to help.

    Officials say 24,800 people have been killed in drug gang violence since President Felipe Calderon declared war on the cartels in December 2006, deploying soldiers and federal police to fight traffickers in their strongholds.

    The government attributes much of the rise in violence to infighting among drug gangs whose leadership has been splintered after the arrest of kingpins.

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    Yes. And as bad as it is, its going to seem a whole lot worse when it starts to happen up here - or should I say increases up here....
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    Wow.
    Such a thoughtfull and caring bunch of people.

    I guess Im a little jaded being in AZ right now.

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    I didn't mean to sound callouse. Its just that you hear this shit every day and its all about the drug cartels - usually killing each other or their families. Yes, its a travesty and a real shame. And nothing is being done on our side to help stop it - like seal the border. Or maybe we grow brains and legalize pot and choke-off their bigest source of revenue.
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    Since Mexico doesn't have a Bill of Rights, why don't the police and military just raid the cartel strongholds and erase them from the face of the earth? It seems as if their government is just playing games with them while the cartels are playing for keeps. Is the Mexican government that liberal, or is it just weak?

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    And cut their income by 90%, are you insane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.S.O.K. View Post
    I didn't mean to sound callouse. Its just that you hear this shit every day and its all about the drug cartels - usually killing each other or their families. Yes, its a travesty and a real shame. And nothing is being done on our side to help stop it - like seal the border. Or maybe we grow brains and legalize pot and choke-off their bigest source of revenue.
    I didnt mean you, I meant the dirt culture that we are seeing from our southern border.
    Alot has happened in AZ with Mexico lately, and we here feel like its gonna get real interesting next week when this law goes into effect.

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    Have things gotten better or worse with the law coming on line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mriddick View Post
    Have things gotten better or worse with the law coming on line?
    Everyone will have their own outlook, but in my eyes it is going to get worse.
    People here in the city are picking sides, and everyone is talking under their breath that something is going to happen, maybe more protests, maybe riots, I cant say, but I know that is has gotten alot worse in AZ in the last year, and this law is WAY overdue.
    You already know the stats, and the news, but we are loosing areas in our state where members here used to shoot and hunt, due to illegals and the feds arent doing anything.
    There are many people who have made statements that if our police, and citizens get targeted by cartels like its being reported due to this law, then possibly its time to start targeting back.

    At least we live in interesting times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    Since Mexico doesn't have a Bill of Rights, why don't the police and military just raid the cartel strongholds and erase them from the face of the earth? It seems as if their government is just playing games with them while the cartels are playing for keeps. Is the Mexican government that liberal, or is it just weak?
    Well if they dig deep enough they will find the mexican goverment is behind the whole thing.
    I just can't see a goverment of a non-third world country unable to pretty much either stop, start or keep going any action they want to happen.

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    Sooner or later, their violence will come here, or our military will go there.

    I'd bet on the former before the latter.


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    Ok, add an amendment to the constitution that we legalize pot, but OUTLAW ANY AND ALL bullshit social programs, aid programs, help programs, and ANY federal or state aid for addicts. No welfare for pot smokers, no addict programs funded by tax dollers......To hell with those who do it. If you get addicted and loose your job, good luck. Really, should be that way with just about all substances except pain killers.....

    angers me. So many idiots think things will just get bvetter and cheaper if we legalize. People have no idea......

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    AR, I have an idea what you said is right, but not in the way you said it. Our governemnt will go to AZ and prevent American citizens from firing back when the cartels and illegals start shooting. The only ones to be arrested will be Americans trying to defend themselves.
    Last edited by alismith; 07-18-2010 at 09:04 PM. Reason: fix typo

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    So, your vote is that the violence is coming here. I personally concur.


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    This, coming to a street near you soon.

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    the really scary thing is that most people dont understand the gravity of whats going on in the border states,its just beyond their comprehension,they are too far away from it ,or they see it as a "racial issue"

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.S.O.K. View Post
    I Or maybe we grow brains and legalize pot and choke-off their bigest source of revenue.
    Unless we can flip a switch and convince every junkie in America to "just say no," these killings will continue. Otherwise, I agree with you about legalization. America is the most lucrative market in the world for illicit drugs. There would be no cartels and killings south of the border if it wasn't for the drug habits north of the border.

    Just like Prohibition, there's just too much money to be made for it to stop on it's own.
    Last edited by Uncle Scary; 07-18-2010 at 10:56 PM.

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    There are pirates on Falcon Lake,nothing is being done other than warnings to the bass fishers and tourist to watch ouch.

    Large caches of weapons are found on our borders with all those gunshow grenades,rpgs and full auto rifles.Where are these gunshows and where are my grenades?

    Shit is going to pop off soon and AZ will be ground zero,then the next state that borders Mexico.
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    Police found more than 120 bullet casings at the scene, most of them from .223 caliber weapons.
    Found at a Zeta camp earlier this summer:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruskiegunlover View Post
    Ok, add an amendment to the constitution that we legalize pot, but OUTLAW ANY AND ALL bullshit social programs, aid programs, help programs, and ANY federal or state aid for addicts. No welfare for pot smokers, no addict programs funded by tax dollers......To hell with those who do it. If you get addicted and loose your job, good luck. Really, should be that way with just about all substances except pain killers.....

    angers me. So many idiots think things will just get bvetter and cheaper if we legalize. People have no idea......

    Pot isn't addictive.

    Tobbacco is a shit ton more harmful to the individual smoking it than weed.

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