ARIZONA MASS MURDERER JARED LOUGHNER IS A CRAZED LEFT WINGER WHO READS MARX AND HITLE

[HDR]

A leftist nut case.

t’s a sign of the times, and the political climate that I’m having to write this while Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords clings to life and others mourn the death of loved ones including Federal District Court Judge John Roll, and a nine year old girl. But here we are. Within minutes of the shootings, the left wing bloggers and the so-called mainstream media immediately started blaming this tragedy on Sarah Palin, the Tea Party, and Conservative politics in general. Congresswoman Giffords, of course, is a democrat, so obviously some right winger did this.At least according to the disgusting people pointing fingers before fact one was in.
The fact is, the shooter, Jared Loughner, is crazy. Period.
Now the guy’s rants are absolutely in line with the leftist points of view, and among other things, he claims his favorite books are the Communist Manifesto, and Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf.
Jared Loughner is obviously a nut. He rants against our currency because it isn’t backed by gold. Claims to hate God, as well as people who use poor grammar.This is not someone who is of sound mind.


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http://www.thecypresstimes.com/artic...IN_KAMPF/38530

[Congo]

Yeah, "nuts" would be my vote too. Secondary would be his ideology...doesn't michael savage say it's a mental illness?

[Schuetzenman]

I've often thought the true Liberal is mentally defective!

[LAGC]

Wow, HDR. Did you really have to yell in your thread title?

Explain to me how his affinity for Mein Kampf (written by Hitler, who was a fascist -- about as far-right on the political spectrum as you can get) and wanting currency to be backed by a gold standard are left-wing ideas?

As I said in the other thread, the only group kind of on the "left" that I know of that rants about gold-backed currency are the Lyndon LaRouche followers. Seems more typical of a right-wing libertarian like Ron Paul.

Loughner also has extreme anti-abortion views according to former classmates. Is that a left-wing view?

As for his hatred of God, there are plenty of right-wing atheists. Ayn Rand anyone?

If it turns out he really was a crazed lefty, then I will recuse myself and go sit in the corner. But so far the evidence is non-conclusive.

[Joey]

LOL @ the righties saying he's a lefty and the lefties saying he's a righty. There's nothing wrong with robust political debate, it's the sign of a healthy democracy and the legitimate exercise of free speech, but maybe wait till the bodies are cold? Or, better still, until there are some FACTS upon which to base free speech and political comment?

How about this? That people, from left or right, trying to attack their their political opponents with this shooting, before the bodies are cold, using warm blood to lubricate their prejudices, are disgusting specimens?

Yes HDR it's you I'm talking about. But you're not alone. The left are doing it too: example from a British liberal newspaper.

BTW what sort of name is "Jared"? We don't have it in Britain. Is it a redneck name?

[chiak47]

I have a copy of Mein Kamph as well as The Communist Manifesto and I would not consider myself a left winger. Mein Kamph is like looking into the mind of a lunatic and TCM is like reading into the future.

[abpt1]

Don't matter who's side hes on he a fucking nut job .

[Joey]

Was Jared Lee Loughner a Gunsnet member? If he was then the FBI will be all over this site like a rash.

Okay, millions of Americans own guns and only a small percentage are members of Gunsnet. But if Loughner's been ranting here about federal mind control, the need for a new "currency" or demanding "second amendment solutions" could someone link to it please?

If I see anyone on this site who is clearly insane I'm going to start pressing the 'report post' button. It could save the life of a 9 yr old girl.


Christina-Taylor Green, born September 11, 2001, murdered by Jared Lee Loughner on January 8, 2011

[Solidus-snake]

What the hell does he have to do with this site? Basis for this absurd stab at the site?

I agree, I really don't care what political persuasion he was, the guys a piece of shit nutjob that should have been wasted by a CCW holder.

[Joey]

What the hell does he have to do with this site? Basis for this absurd stab at the site?

Jeez don't be such a sensitive flower. It's not a "stab" at this site. It's a reasonable question. I've seen armed loons running about here writing paranoid stuff about the federal government. In future I'm going to press the 'report post' button. What's wrong with that? Don't you want the crazies caught? They give legitimate, law-abiding gun-owners a bad name and play into the hands of the gun control lobby.

[HDR]

Wow, HDR. Did you really have to yell in your thread title?

It is called cut and paste.

Explain to me how his affinity for Mein Kampf (written by Hitler, who was a fascist -- about as far-right on the political spectrum as you can get) and wanting currency to be backed by a gold standard are left-wing ideas?

Are you saying Marx was a conservative??

Lefty, the nut case belongs to your side of the fence.

As I said in the other thread, the only group kind of on the "left" that I know of that rants about gold-backed currency are the Lyndon LaRouche followers. Seems more typical of a right-wing libertarian like Ron Paul.

Loughner also has extreme anti-abortion views according to former classmates. Is that a left-wing view?

As for his hatred of God, there are plenty of right-wing atheists. Ayn Rand anyone?

If it turns out he really was a crazed lefty, then I will recuse myself and go sit in the corner. But so far the evidence is non-conclusive.

Well, you're a leftist and you're against gun control so obviously of all people you ought to be able to understand.

[Lysander]

written by Hitler, who was a fascist -- about as far-right on the political spectrum as you can get

Far right?

National Socialism is far right? Centrally planned economy, State control and/or oversight of all industries...that's left wing. No matter how you look at it, The German form of Fascism was left wing, not right.

[HDR]

LOL @ the righties saying he's a lefty and the lefties saying he's a righty. There's nothing wrong with robust political debate, it's the sign of a healthy democracy and the legitimate exercise of free speech, but maybe wait till the bodies are cold? Or, better still, until there are some FACTS upon which to base free speech and political comment?

How about this? That people, from left or right, trying to attack their their political opponents with this shooting, before the bodies are cold, using warm blood to lubricate their prejudices, are disgusting specimens?

Yes HDR it's you I'm talking about. But you're not alone. The left are doing it too: example from a British liberal newspaper.

BTW what sort of name is "Jared"? We don't have it in Britain. Is it a redneck name?

Yup, how dare I quote an article which implies this animal came from the other side of the fence. We went through the same deal with the Elections. A person would ask about how 0bama could be a US citizen when he applied and accepted aid as a foreigner; answer you're a racist.

As there is a time delay, your British liberal newspaper pulled the trigger too quick. Yup, so intent on blaming the Right; they could not wait for the facts??
(No I did not bother to click your link; however without even bothering to look I was close to the mark, correct?)

Many say this tragedy was caused by the heated intensity of political debate; so those same people immediately blame the Right.

As you asked about the name Jared:

First name origins & meanings:

1. English: Strong
2. Hebrew: Descending

First name variations: Garett, Garrard, Garret, Garretson, Garrith, Garrot, Garyth, Garritt, Gerrity, Jarod, Jarret, Jarrett, Jarrot, Jarrott, Garrett, Jarrod, Jarett, Jarrett, Ja'red, Jaraed, Jahred, Jaired, Jaredd, Jareid, Jerred

Last name origin & meaning:

English: variant of Garrett.

Famous people who gave their babies this name: Jim Belushi, Richard Harris

This name appears in the following lists: Biblical Names

Read more on FamilyEducation: http://baby-names.familyeducation.co...#ixzz1AdCQBVrP

Jared is a biblical name which appears in the King James Bible:

Name

In English translations of the Bible, such as the King James Version of the Bible, the classical Biblical pronunciation of the English name Jared is /ˈdʒɛərɛd/; generally though it is pronounced /ˈdʒɛrɛd/ or /ˈdʒɛrəd/. The spelling of the identical name in 1 Chronicles is Jered. The original Hebrew pronunciation of the name, ירד, found in the Hebrew Bible, was similar but with an initial y sound: [ˈjɛrɛð].

According to the Book of Enoch, Mahalalel named [his son] Jared "descent" because during his lifetime the angels of the Lord who were called Watchers descended to earth to teach mankind and to do what is just and upright upon the earth".

BTW what sort of name is "Jared"? We don't have it in Britain. Is it a redneck name?

BTW, you asked me to cite an example of you stirring the pot?? Well, there it is..... Kind of dumb to make such a statement and in less than 24 hours provide me with an example... As I knew you would volunteer quickly; I did not bother to search for them yesterday.....

BTW, according to the nameology sites, Jared is a British name also; a British actor is named Jared Harris, Jared Sparks also a Brit, have you heard of a footbal (your style) named Jared Borgetti? Although he isn't a Brit; he plays professional sports there.

Please learn to use the internet or risk continuing looking dumb. LOL.

[LAGC]

Interesting update... Department of Homeland Security memo, as quoted on Greta van Susteren's Fox News blog:

no direct connection - but strong suspicion is being directed at AmRen / American Renaissance. Suspect is possibly linked to this group. (through videos posted on his myspace and YouTube account.). The group’s ideology is anti government, anti immigration, anti ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti Semitic. Gabrielle Gifford is the first Jewish female elected to such a high position in the US government. She was also opposite this group’s ideology when it came to immigration debate.*

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/l...as-the-target/

American Renaissance is a CONSERVATIVE, WHITE RACIST political organization.

Its looking more and more likely that Jared is a right-wing extremist after all.

[HDR]

Far right?

National Socialism is far right? Centrally planned economy, State control and/or oversight of all industries...that's left wing. No matter how you look at it, The German form of Fascism was left wing, not right.

LOL, everyone but a leftist knows they were the national socialist party.. A great example of socialism at work.

[HDR]

Interesting update... Department of Homeland Security memo, as quoted on Greta van Susteren's Fox News blog:



http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/l...as-the-target/

American Renaissance is a CONSERVATIVE, WHITE RACIST political organization.

Its looking more and more likely that Jared is a right-wing extremist after all.

Spin lefty spin...

This nutjob must be a conservative because Leftists are never evil... LMAO

I enjoy watching the Left scramble on the defensive..

This is so hopelessly wrong that it is hard to believe it is a genuine government document. No one by the name of Loughner has ever been a subscriber to American Renaissance or has ever registered for an American Renaissance conference. We have no evidence that he has even visited the AR website.
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives..._renais_16.php

Sorry Lefty, even the racists are saying you keep him. LMAO

[Joey]

We went through the same deal with the Elections. A person would ask about how 0bama could be a US citizen when he applied and accepted aid as a foreigner; answer you're a racist.

Just because some on the left behave like idiots is no excuse for the right to do the same. Apart from anything else, lying political propaganda is so boring. Why not just tell the truth? There's a rational argument to be had. Why not engage in it?

[Joey]

Interesting update... Department of Homeland Security memo, as quoted on Greta van Susteren's Fox News blog:



http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/l...as-the-target/

American Renaissance is a CONSERVATIVE, WHITE RACIST political organization.

Its looking more and more likely that Jared is a right-wing extremist after all.

AR has come out and denied any connection. They would, of course, wouldn't they, but as far as I can see nothing is proven and Loughner's taken the 5th.

[LAGC]

Far right?

National Socialism is far right? Centrally planned economy, State control and/or oversight of all industries...that's left wing. No matter how you look at it, The German form of Fascism was left wing, not right.

The Nazis were "socialist" in name only. They had a very capitalist command-economy that had the mass support of private business and conservative Germans at large. The very definition of fascism is corporate (private industry) control of an economy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Racism is inherently right-wing. Nationalism is inherently right-wing. The Nazis championed both.

[Joey]

The Nazis were "socialist" in name only. They had a very capitalist command-economy that had the mass support of private business and conservative Germans at large. The very definition of fascism is corporate (private industry) control of an economy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Racism is inherently right-wing. Nationalism is inherently right-wing. The Nazis championed both.

Come on LAGC. The Nazis had "socialism" in their name, so must have been socialists, right? Same as the former German Democratic Republic must have been democrats. Sheesh.